Comment by Rocky john on September 7, 2013 at 12:44am

I would guess that one of the major reasons Obama wants to go to war with Syria is due to it being one of Irans only real allies.With syria out of the way it will be easier to fight a  war against  Iran for trying to produce nuclear weapons.

Funnily enough, but i remeber reading something a few months ago on how it looked like the Syrian rebels had used nerve gas back in march.

U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on September 7, 2013 at 1:44am

When some mean motherfuckers are coming over the hill, you need meaner motherfuckers to go up and meet them."

1) The NRA's Wayne LaPierre might have said that.

2) Meaner motherfuckers? I would want mine to be as calm and cool as sociopaths and Navy Seals.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on September 7, 2013 at 3:40am

It's a proxy war. Iran backs the Syrian government because they hate Israel and are cozy with Hezbollah. Putin backs the Syrian government because they give the Russian navy and air force its only bases in the middle east (in exchange for the weapons used to fight the rebels). Qatar and Saudi give weapons and supplies to the Syrian rebels to stop Iran from getting more control of Syria through Hezbollah. Half a dozen other countries and groups provide support to one side or the other as well.

So the arms pour in, the two sides fight, and the meat grinder slowly turns: 100,000 killed, 130,000 missing, 2 million refugees, and 3 million internally displaced. The Syrian government systematically uses terror, torture and rape as weapons of war, and now they're targeting civilian populations with internationally banned munitions; cluster bombs, thermobaric bombs, and nerve gas. The violence, destruction and death continue to escalate and there's no end in sight.

What an absolutely horrifying mess.

Bomb every military target in Syria. Destroy every army base, helicopter, plane, tank, troop carrier, missile launcher, radar site, bunker and royal palace that the bastards in the Syrian government own. Level it all. Let them try to murder, rape, and gas their own women and kids after that.

Comment by _Robert_ on September 7, 2013 at 7:12am

Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.

Israel has signed but not ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).[14] There are speculations that a chemical weapons program might be located at the Israel Institute for Biological Research (IIBR[15]) in Ness Ziona.[16]

190 liters of dimethyl methylphosphonate, a CWC schedule 2 chemical used in the synthesis of sarin nerve gas, was discovered in the cargo of El Al Flight 1862 after it crashed in 1992 en route to Tel Aviv. Israel insisted the material was non-toxic, was to have been used to test filters that protect against chemical weapons, and that it had been clearly listed on the cargo manifest in accordance with international regulations. The shipment was from a U.S. chemical plant to the IIBR under a U.S. Department of Commerce license.[17]

Comment by kOrsan on September 7, 2013 at 8:15am

A bunch of brainwashed christians want to interfere and kill a bunch of brainwashed muslims who were killng another bunch of brainwashed muslims.

Let em.

Comment by Ed on September 7, 2013 at 8:26am

"I don't see you seeing any complexity here, so I think you need to look at yourself rather than criticizing me for the exact thing you're guilty of." -Unseen

Huh? What in my post can you interpret as personal criticism?

The point I was making is that it is a weak argument to say outside nations can/should standby and watch a despot murder their own citizens as long as the methodology doesn't involve WMD's. That's nonsensical. The victims are still innocents and still extremely dead in either case. It is bizarre that our civilization has decided to place rules of engagement upon one another when it comes to murdering en mass. It's okay to whack people to pieces w/ machetes but dare you try to use chemical gases. The mentality of our civilization in making rules to murder one another by shows the senselessness of the whole process of war. 

Comment by Ed on September 7, 2013 at 8:30am


A true synopsis indeed but I still have a gut wrenching feeling in the pit of my stomach when I see the dead & maimed children caught in the middle with no where to go. 

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 7, 2013 at 8:53am

I agree, Ed, but I would like to see the United Nations become Police Force of the World, rather than the US. We risk becoming an empire unto ourselves.

@k - in the pre-Jay Leno/Tonight Show days, Leno, then a stand-up comic, was chosen as the Doritos spokesperson, whose slogan used to be, "Eat all you want, we'll make more!" I'm sensing the brainwashed theists have a similar motto. "Kill all you want --"

@Un-One, RE: "I have mixed emotions on everything. It's a problem I have (among many others!). I see both sides of every issue where many people see only one side." - so does that mean you're a Pisces, a Libra, or a Gemini? You really should do something about that hormone imbalance, maybe cut back on the estrogen --

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 7, 2013 at 9:01am

Dead children mean little, Ed, to a people - both Muslim and Christian - who believe dead children go directly to heaven and bypass all of the miseries of Life. Theists need to get their heads out of their asses and realize what they're doing to those kids. And then there are, as you say, the maimed, who, in many cases, have known no other life than war, and what of the trauma to those who may never get hurt, but who live in constant fear? What's it all about, that it's worth this?

Comment by Unseen on September 7, 2013 at 9:31am

@Rocky John

Funnily enough, but i remeber reading something a few months ago on how it looked like the Syrian rebels had used nerve gas back in march.

Despite what McCain and others wants, Obama doesn't want to take sides in the war. He just wants to punish using WMD's. The rebels are no angels. They probably have used some poison gas, but it was probably captured from Saddam's regime. You can also see videos of them summarily executing captured Syrian soldiers rather than treating them as prisoners of war and incarcerating them.


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