This morning my Christian in-laws came over, then turned around and walked out when they saw what we had done with the nativity set they had given us

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Comment by J. Ratzinger on January 9, 2011 at 7:30pm

@Julie harm-I would welcome any such gift from a niece or nephew as it would give me the opportunity to explain evolution to the little one, but in a calm, rational, child-friendly fun manner. I wouldn't cuss her out, or laugh at him, and certainly wouldn't be offended by it at all. I have in the past had children ask me if ghosts are real, and why people on the bottom of the earth just don't fall off into space. I enjoy being of assistance to the ignorant so I try to answer such questions as best I can. I hope that answer helped!


@ditto-I appreciate your suggestion about going to school. I like school, and I consider myself to be a lifelong learner. I try to learn things all the time whether inside a formal classroom, or when interacting with others out in the real world.


One of the valuable things I have learned is the Silver Rule which goes "Do not do to others as you would not have them do to you,", which is essentially what my initial post here was all about. I would not like to give my Mother a warm winter sweater as a Solstice Gift, only to go to her house for Christmas Dinner, and see that she had been using it to scrub out the cooking pots, or that she had it laid on the doorstep as a foot-wipe for entering guests & everybody just laughing at me for buying my Mother her such an unwanted/unappreciated gift.


I feel that it is great fun to argue religiosity, and the non-existence of gods far and wide, but it is wise to refrain from tearing ones family apart over it in the home. There is not one of the fictional gods who ever didn't exist which is worth losing ones family over, so what is to be gained by fighting such battles inside your family, and during the holidays no less. I think it is a Shameful embarrassment to admit to doing so, and I am bewildered that so many atheists here agree with this disgraceful behaviour. I am shocked to say the least. Is there no decency, no honour among you at all?!

Comment by Vince James Abernathy on January 9, 2011 at 7:52pm
It surely is a grave insult to give a family member a gift only later to see them invite you into their home and ridicule the Gift item in front of everyone.


Well the answer to you J. Ratzinger, is that; Lets say if you  had an a alcohol problem and spent the last 5 months in rehab to overcome it, and then here comes you're shmuck-in-law and gives you a six pack of Bud as a present for X-mas, wouldn't you find that offensive?  Or how about a fat in-law and you gave her an ultra slim fast as a present?

Comment by Maya Bohnhoff on January 10, 2011 at 8:46pm
@J.Ratzinger: Thank you. Just ... thank you.
Comment by Rachel Heck on January 12, 2011 at 12:58pm

This is hilarious because in-laws can be so precocious, add being religious, and on top of that not respecting the seculars lives their children or children in-law have decided to lead and it’s totally appropriate to use their gift as a chance to introduce then to baby spaghetti monster. My 83 year old grandmother loved to buy my boys children’s bibles and religious nursery rhymes but I think she noticed that I was atheist and she doesn’t care. She’s Christian because it gives her something to do. I know she doesn’t believe non-Christians are going to hell so I try not to bring it up too much.


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