Comment by Natalie on May 3, 2011 at 3:42am

:D neat!

Comment by IEatDinosaurMeat on May 3, 2011 at 5:19am

What if I don't have a color monitor?
hehehe.
Awesome though, think I'm gonna make this my facebook profile picture :P

Comment by kelltrill on May 3, 2011 at 8:43am

Love it. It's a great way to get creationists to stop dodging that whole, "I accept micro-evolution but not macro-evolution" nonsense argument.

Comment by Daniel on May 3, 2011 at 9:12am

This is good but, I've learned that if someone doesn't even believe in evolution you should just not even try and go do something productive/makes happy. Clever things like this don't change the mind a creationist it makes them angry because it makes them think and makes them conflicted and they default to some type of religious platitude.

Comment by Jewelz on May 3, 2011 at 9:50am

I love this! My other new favorite is Matt Dillahunty's latin spaniduck example.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyzF8SMQOxU#t=29m07s

Comment by Robert Karp on May 3, 2011 at 10:05am

This definitely adds to the ammo cupboard when dealing with people. Same to you Jewelz. Thanks to both for posting. However I do agree with amg500 that with apologists and ethologist philosophers, who in my opinion are simply delusional, even these simple and straight forward points don't help. In the video Jewelz refered to, after a very simple explanation the caller then says "I've know god since blah blah 3:30 am in the morning etc...." I mean it's just nuts.

Comment by Jewelz on May 3, 2011 at 10:22am

Actually, I rather enjoy an irrational "out of the blue" reaction from a Christian friend during an otherwise completely civil religious conversation. It means something I've said has broken through the delusion and forced them to think, if only for a split second. That reaction is their defensive shield going up immediately to prevent the seed of doubt I've just planted from sprouting. Plant enough of them and one find its way through a crack.

 

I do agree that some people, like professional apologists, are probably too far gone to bother. Even if they did eventually manage to break free from delusion, they'd probably keep pretending to believe because they've dedicated too much of their lives to it and their livelihoods often depend on it.

Comment by Daniel on May 3, 2011 at 10:39am

I find myself not being able to keep my cool when creationists are stubborn. After a while of bringing up basic facts and them refuting it I tend to get angry also. How do you guys keep your cool? For example I was watching The atheist experience episode 702 and just that was enough to make me emote out loud inadvertently on several because I was so bothered by the ignorance.

Comment by Anne on May 3, 2011 at 2:02pm

I really love this! Thanks for posting it.

 

As for keeping cool in the face of ignorance... I live in the deep South and took recently an online biology class at college. I wish I could post the discussion posts we had there. I felt almost embarrassed that grown people with children could actually believe the irrational creationist things they were going on about. It pretty much became two discussion groups, the "flat-earthers" and the ones who think the evidence for evolution is pretty darn convincing. 

Anyway... I do not know why so many of us (Atheists, I mean) spend so much time engaging in fruitless debate and getting angry. The only exception to this for me is when those who are irrational try to force their beliefs on me or my country with ludicrous laws etc. I have learned, being here, that I choose my battles wisely... otherwise I would be endlessly in frays. I prefer to live my life.

One cannot reason with someone who is irrational. We cannot convert to reason. It is like faith: either one believes or one doesn't. If someone is truly open to the possibility of another point of view based on evidence as opposed to religious teaching and personal feelings, they will appreciate the merits of the rational evidence. If not, they are not worth my time and expenditure of anger.

Comment by Arcus on May 3, 2011 at 2:41pm

I'd have to subject the paper to a chromatic(?) test to accurately answer the questions.. But fun nonetheless. :)

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