The Irish Prime Minister has just been threatened with excommunication from the Catholic Church if he passes new abortion legislation in Ireland. His response-

Comment by Strega on May 6, 2013 at 5:47pm

You just couldn't make it up!  Unbelievable :)

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 7, 2013 at 3:15am

Here is his speech on the report into child abuse by the catholic church. Soon after it we got rid of the Vatican's embassy in Ireland......It is a powerful speech.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 7, 2013 at 3:16am

Link to above.

Comment by _Robert_ on May 7, 2013 at 7:09am

And this is why and rightly so...

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on May 7, 2013 at 9:32am

Here is the specific quotation made by Cardinal Sean Brady, the most senior Catholic cleric in Ireland, and holder of a doctorate in theology (an advanced degree in the study of nothing).

Upon being asked if legislators who voted in favor of the legislation would automatically be excommunicated and should not present themselves for Holy Communion, The Reverend "Doctor" Brady replied:

“That is down the line at the moment, as far as we are concerned. It is [our intention] to convince the electorate first of all and the legislators to change”.

Later in the same conversation Brady stated:

“We know what the [church] law is about excommunication about abortion, that’s a fact. But, as I say, the most important issue at this moment is to win the hearts and minds of the people of Ireland. We’re trying to persuade them not to introduce it. We have to, in addition to do good, we also have to oppose evil and to oppose a law that would take away fundamental rights from people – [that law] should be opposed.”

In other words, legalizing abortion to save a woman's life (which is what the current legislation proposes) is taking away fundamental rights of the Irish people.

Someone should ask Brady how many Catholic clergy he is working diligently to be excommunicated (or at least criminally prosecuted) as a result of the findings of the Ryan Reports, since he is so terribly concerned about protecting the fundamental rights of the Irish people. 

Comment by Sagacious Hawk on May 7, 2013 at 11:49am

I totally need to visit Ireland.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 7, 2013 at 12:36pm

I will meet you at the Airport......:-)

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on May 7, 2013 at 12:51pm

@ Robert - Thanks for that video. It ends asking that the faithful make the restoration of the faith in Ireland their life’s work. That is exactly the opposite of what many of us here have been doing for the last 20 years or so. We are winning. I am certain that the majority of those born since 2000 will be Atheists. I hardly know anybody that bothers with the Catholic Church anymore. It is meaningless to most people under 40.

Comment by Adam on May 7, 2013 at 1:17pm

Dude Ireland is one of my places to visit too! Trying to save up some money so in about couple of years I can go tour Europe. 

Good for the Irish Prime Minister to stick up for the constitution 

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on May 7, 2013 at 2:27pm

I think he should present himself for communion, walk up, and as the priest reaches to place the host on his tongue he should close his mouth, turn and walk out.  It would be great to get that on video, very symbolic.


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