The existence of God is not subjective...

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 22, 2013 at 8:52pm

GREAT picture, Robert, but I can't help wondering if they got their empathy from studying Jesus --

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 22, 2013 at 8:56pm

RE: "I was talking about Jesus - the New Testiment - HELLO" - and no one knows what Yeshua thought or did, or even if he ever existed.

But since you presume to know what he did and what he thought, could you give us a few quotations from Yeshua that teaches empathy, other than the "Golden Rule," which is found in nearly every religion that ever existed?

Comment by Strega on September 22, 2013 at 9:00pm

No, they were brought up on Baby Rhesus.

Comment by _Robert_ on September 22, 2013 at 9:05pm

Thou shall not covet another monkey's bananas.

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 22, 2013 at 9:13pm

To show you how much empathy he got from the Yeshua story, and both he and the witch-roasters had the same role model, your hero, Yehsua, who wilts fig trees and beats people with a whip.

Comment by _Robert_ on September 22, 2013 at 10:01pm

I think that many ancient philosophies as well as all religions have a form of the golden rule. Epicurus is my hero and taught "neither to harm nor be harmed".

Confucius (551–479 BC)

"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself."

 Pittacus (640–568 BC)

"Do not do to your neighbor what you would take ill from him." 

Seneca 4 BC – AD 65

"ab alio expectes alteri quod feceris" (expect from others what you did to them)

 

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 22, 2013 at 10:17pm

Exactly, Robert - religion was certainly not the only source, and it likely borrowed it from one of the truly great thinkers, the only actual difference being, that religion usually plays to a bigger audience.

Comment by Strega on September 22, 2013 at 10:25pm

I think the golden rule is the fulcrum of any voluntary community.  It's hard to see how a community could work without it - it even pervades the animal kingdom in most areas.

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 22, 2013 at 10:25pm

"arche - where do see you the empathy in that picture?" - On the faces of the other apes.

(I really hate this format, with no reply buttons!)

Other ladies - and by that, I mean Suzanne and Strega - I don't get, as some have intimated, that Angela hates men. I get that one or more men have greatly hurt her, and that she is less trustful of men than she otherwise would be. On the other hand, she's absolutely correct that men have been in charge of the majority of the atrocities committed in the world, I think we all must admit that.

Comment by Strega on September 22, 2013 at 10:31pm

Who was it who famously said "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" or something to that effect? 

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