Comment by archaeopteryx on September 5, 2012 at 12:01am

About 300 years before the Noah story allegedly occurred, an unknown author wrote a story called "The Epic of Gilgamesh", in which our hero, Gilgamesh, goes searching for the key to eternal life (not to spoil the ending for you, but he finds it, but it slips through his fingers while sleeping), and along the way, he has adventures. During these adventures, he meets Utinaptishtum, a fictitious name for the Mesopotamian King, Zuisudra, who tells his flood story. He ends the story with a tale about sending out birds, a raven and a dove, to determine if the ground had yet dried. When they didn't return, he knew that it had. After Utinapistum disemb-arked, he created a sacrifice for the gods. Utinapisttum's story ends as the god came down - "they smelled the savor, they smelled the sweet savor."

Again, let me stress that this was 300 years before the Noah story supposedly happened. In Genesis 8, Noah also built an altar and offered a sacrifice - Gen 8:21 "And the Lord smelled the sweet savor...."

Comment by James Cox on September 5, 2012 at 12:01am


Then there's the water issue

Early 80's, I went to a local '7th day Adventist' Creationist class. It was given by a 'geologist', that just happened to be a member, wink/nod..;-)

During that class he mentioned that the reason for the great flood was that all the continents sank over a 40 day period. I sat in the audience, with a feeling that, while Washington county did feel a little backward, I did not think that they had gone mad. I waited for a question from the audience, but none came. I raised my hand and asked, 'so what did the continents sink in to?' He suggested that the continents where floating on a vast ground water reserve, which by the will of God had been released! At this point there seemed to be a movement to serve coffee. I left, since I had already worn my welcome out a few places.   

Comment by july Augusté on September 5, 2012 at 12:05am

you can find the answers here HAHAHA!

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 5, 2012 at 12:11am

James, I'd say "You've GOT to be kidding," but sadly, I know you're not.

Comment by James Cox on September 5, 2012 at 12:27am

Yes, sadness is sometimes compounded by a second telling, sorry if I have ruined you whole day. I do wish there had been an very active atheist group that I knew about then. It might have been great fun to be a roving shock troop of sarcastic atheists. This was at the beginning of the Moral Majority period, we could have started a movement and crushed the crap before it started, yah in my dreams. Now we are stuck with brush fires and PAC with lots of money.

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 5, 2012 at 12:47am

Buck up James, my day isn't ruined that easily!

Comment by onyango makagutu on September 5, 2012 at 1:32am

What I would really want to know is Noah and family dealt with woodpecker birds? I mean, the ark was built using timber or did he have them birds in cages?

Comment by warofages on September 5, 2012 at 9:56am

he used pokeballs duh. don't underestimate the Lord.

Comment by warofages on September 5, 2012 at 9:58am

either that or Noah is a Time Lord.

Comment by archaeopteryx on September 5, 2012 at 11:08am

RE: "don't underestimate the Lord" - it's impossible to underestimate your wizard, he never fails to disappoint.


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