New Rule

**THIS!** (◕‿◕)✿

Comment by Sankev on August 7, 2012 at 10:36pm

Well put...

Comment by Dienekes on September 8, 2012 at 11:16pm

This is a new rule?  This is the rule I've been using against theists for a couple of years now.  Although, granted, I've never seen it written so concisely.

Comment by Bernard on July 5, 2014 at 5:37am

God is dog spelled backwards. I win...

Comment by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2014 at 3:42pm

My concern, aside from the 1990s-style use of fonts, is that science often proceeds from an aesthetic sense, or a creative impulse.  Einstein often argued that theories should be elegant/beautiful, and often "attacks" on theories or ideas turn around such notions or the creative impulse of scientists.  Louis DeBroglie went and attacked the entire edifice of physics in his Ph.D. thesis without any "documentation", "empirical results of repeatable experimentation", or "evidence."  His sheer cheek and creativity advanced our understanding of the universe in astonishing ways.

Science without a sense of inquiry, a sense of whimsy, and genuine creativity is really just a poor second cousin of orthodox rabbinic judaism. 

As long as they offer their research to peer review and rigorous testing, then there is no reason to think that they would become a priest class.

Nonsense.  Speaking as an associate editor for a major journal, peer review is not really all it's cracked up to be.  How much review can one really do in two weeks, which is typically the requested turnaround time on a review?   One might find errors within the paper, or offer suggestions on refining the theory or presentation, but we're really very bad at catching real experimental error or fraud.

Besides, rabbis and priests have been subjecting doctrinal theories to peer review for millenia.

Comment by matt.clerke on July 8, 2014 at 7:37pm

science often proceeds from an aesthetic sense, or a creative impulse

What? What on earth makes you think that?...

Lets study the smallpox virus... awwww, look how cute it is - scientist

Einstein often argued that theories should be elegant/beautiful

This is consistant with Occams razor... simpler is better and in lieu of simplicity, elegance will do.

and often "attacks" on theories or ideas turn around such notions or the creative impulse of scientists

Not sure what you are trying to say here...

His sheer cheek and creativity advanced our understanding of the universe in astonishing ways.

After it was tested with "repeatable experimentation" and then adequetly documented... yes.

Science without a sense of inquiry, a sense of whimsy, and genuine creativity is really just a poor second cousin of orthodox rabbinic judaism.

What's the point of this? Jewish scholars are well respected. Are you saying that even without whimsy and creativity, science should still be respected? Or are you saying that it is more of a "book learning" type situation? Either way, not exactly a point against science.

As long as they offer their research to peer review and rigorous testing, then there is no reason to think that they would become a priest class.

Where have you quoted this from? It seems to make no sense... may as well of been quoted from the Dungeons & Dragons handbook.

How much review can one really do in two weeks, which is typically the requested turnaround time on a review?

If you think that peer review is finished after you publish it then you are sorely mistaken. Even once a paper has been reviewed for publication, other scientists all over the world will still attempt to reproduce and expand on the content of the paper.

Besides, rabbis and priests have been subjecting doctrinal theories to peer review for millenia.

I disagree with the "have been subjecting" part... On the other hand, holy books have been thoroughly scruitinised and debunked for hundreds of years.

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