Comment by Unseen on April 7, 2013 at 9:47am

Muslim girl of fourteen living in Redfern, was sneaking out to meet her Australian boyfriend. She was beaten to death with a rubber hose. Parents sent to jail.

Beaten to death with a rubber hose? Was no iron pipe available? No pistol? Now, see, this is how having gun control can go wrong. A bullet to the brain would have been much more humane.

Comment by Unseen on April 7, 2013 at 2:10pm

Whenever I could sneak in.

Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 7, 2013 at 6:30pm
@Unseen - Nah - Parents did not want this to be quick - slow and tortuous is the aim of the game.
Comment by Adam on April 7, 2013 at 7:10pm

Whether they wear a full covering isnt specific in the Quran - Im just looking around and it just says to stay modest or it instructs the man to make sure the women stay modest

The Quran only says to wear the Hijab. The Burqa and and Niqab you see women wear in the Middle East comes for Arab traditions which all have been conveniently made it into part of the law one time or another. But originally Muhammad's time, Hijab was all you needed

Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 7, 2013 at 7:15pm
Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.” – Al-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur’an, p. 351

From Random thoughts - makagutu
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 7, 2013 at 7:21pm
The Koran
Men are protectors and maintainers of women; women must be devoutly obedient, if not then beat them. (4:34)
Wives are tilths: sow in them in whatever manner you like. (2:223) Sunaan Abu Dawud (Hadith)
A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife. (11.2142)
A woman who complains about the beatings she receives from her hus­band is not the best woman. (11.2141)
For men four free women wives (some say nine) at a time and any number of slave girls is permitted. (4:3)
Comment by _Robert_ on April 7, 2013 at 8:52pm

The Bible gives the Quran a good run.....

  1. A wife is a man’s property: You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Exodus 20:17
  2. Daughters can be bought and sold: If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Exodus 21:7
  3. A raped daughter can be sold to her rapist: 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29
  4. Collecting wives and sex slaves is a sign of status: He [Solomon] had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. 1 Kings 11:3
  5. Used brides deserve death: If, however the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21.
  6. Women, but only virgins, are to be taken as spoils of war: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Numbers 31:17-1
Comment by _Robert_ on April 7, 2013 at 8:53pm
  1. Menstruating women are spiritually unclean: 19 “‘When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. 20 “‘Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. 21 Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 22 Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, . . . 30 The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the LORD for the uncleanness of her discharge. 31 “‘You must keep the Israelites separate from things that make them unclean, so they will not die in their uncleanness for defiling my dwelling place,[a] which is among them.’” Leviticus 15: 19-31
  2. A woman is twice as unclean after giving birth to girl as to a boy: A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. ‘ 3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. 4 Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. 5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. 6 ” ‘When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. Leviticus 12: 1-8
Comment by _Robert_ on April 7, 2013 at 8:54pm
  1. A woman’s promise is binding only if her father or husband agrees: 2 When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. 3 “When a young woman still living in her father’s household makes a vow to the LORD or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the LORD will release her because her father has forbidden her. . . . . A woman’s vow is meaningless unless approved by her husband or father. But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the LORD will release her. 13 Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself. Numbers 30:1-16
  2. Women should be seen not heard: Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 1 Corinthians 14:34
  3. Wives should submit to their husband’s instructions and desires: Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18
  4. In case you missed that submission thing . . . :  Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Ephesians 5:22-24.
Comment by Strega on April 8, 2013 at 1:03pm

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