Comment by Nerdy Keith on May 15, 2013 at 7:04pm

@Professor Robert, 

You have some valid points, bar the last one. Many religious do not reject to the use of weapons in general.  Most proponents of the NRA are of what religious stance? You guessed Christians. Many world leaders are pro-war and have NO problem ordering their national defence to use weapons of mass destruction. 

So religion doesn't really reject that at all, as a matter of fact I could find plenty of biblical quotes supporting mass destruction and obliteration. 

Such as:

Judges 5:31

"So may all your enemies perish, O LORD! But may they who love you be like the sun when it rises in its strength."

Comment by H3xx on August 15, 2013 at 10:37pm

@Davis Goodman

You could challenge someone to a "who has more balls contest" Chuck Norris would still win.

Comment by H3xx on August 15, 2013 at 10:48pm

Science once advocated for human eugenics, including the forced sterilization of the mentally or physically handicapped.  Religion objected.

Didn't God send Moses on several genocidal campaigns? How is genocide different then eugenics? Seems to me that eugenics is at least slightly less evil than genocide.

Science argued that some races were less intelligent by virtue of various physical traits.  Religion dissented.

The Samaritans, the Gentiles, the Shiites... All inferior races or groups of people according to their respective religions.

Science experimented on human subjects who were poor, or of a particular racial group, without their consent.   Religion objected.

Religion burned witches and tortured heretics. I'll be generous and call it a tie.

Science advocated for, created, and continues to create weapons of mass destruction.   Religion objects.

Certain religions view weapons of mass destruction as holy weapons.

And, Science is not a united collective of people with one central symbol of leadership. A religion is. You don't have to convince all scientists, only the ones who are straying. In order to get a religion to admit that it's wrong, you have to convince nearly all of them. At least the most pious of them.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on January 17, 2014 at 1:22am

Goodness, Pinoch. How did I miss a juicy one like this last May?

Science once advocated for human eugenics, including the forced sterilization of the mentally or physically handicapped.  Religion objected.

The eugenics movement wasn't science. It was racism, bigotry and pseudo-science masquerading as science.

Protestant, Jewish, and even some Catholic religious leaders made American eugenics the foremost in the world. They backed it. They preached it. They wanted to create a "good society" based on sterilization, restricted immigration, intelligence screening, and the racial and ethnic backgrounds of families. Their efforts are documented in 'Preaching Eugenics: Religious Leaders and the American Eugenics Mov...' by Christine Rosen. They were successful enough to inspire religious Presidents, religious leaders in foreign countries, and the overwhelmingly religious Nazis.

Science argued that some races were less intelligent by virtue of various physical traits.  Religion dissented.

Racism is not science.

Religion has been used to justify racism for centuries, notably in the US with Mormons and Southern Baptists, the latter of whom founded a new Church in defense of slavery using Biblical justifications and the claim that the Curse and Mark of Cain was black skin.

Science experimented on human subjects who were poor, or of a particular racial group, without their consent.   Religion objected.

Subjugation of the weak is not science.

Religious used devices like the wheel, the rack, the stake, the pillory, the iron maiden, and the scavenger's daughter for centuries to torture or terrorize human subjects of particular groups (heretics, witches, scientists and other undesirables) without their consent.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on January 17, 2014 at 1:22am

Science advocated for, created, and continues to create weapons of mass destruction.   Religion objects.

Science may create WMDs, but don't tell me religious object to using them.

Religious Southern Baptist Harry Truman dropped two atomic bombs on civilian populations in Japan; arguably unnecessary, the worst use of WMDs in history, and the start of the global arms race.

Religious Nazis systematically exterminated millions of Jews during the Holocaust using industrial technology and methods, an undertaking made possible by long-standing Christian antisemitism. The atomic bomb was invented because of them.

Religious crashed loaded passenger planes into skyscrapers in New York City, making creations of science into WMDs. 

Right now, nobody is trying harder than religious to gain control of weapons of mass destruction, and they have every intent to use them.

Religion doesn't create WMDs because it can't, not because it objects.

It is interesting to me, however, to observe these atheist myths. ;----------)

They're not "atheist myths", Pinocchio. They're the standard pack of lies and stereotypes you spread and attribute falsely to atheists.

The length of your emoticon-represented nose wasn't quite right. I fixed it for you.

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