How dare you not believe in your Savior?

Deep down, you know it to be true. Just accept that there is too much evidence to be ignored.

Comment by IEatDinosaurMeat on May 18, 2012 at 8:36pm

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/351206-is-gandalf-jesus

The parallels are at least somewhat intentional.

Comment by jdea on May 18, 2012 at 10:38pm
Honestly, I thought this was about Superman.
Comment by Farhan Tahir on May 19, 2012 at 2:48am

When people CHANGE the definition of terms (in this case of word "Proof"), then how can they ever know that based on THEIR definition of proof, there exists any proof of his existence?

Also, If someone has not done any research to Search for the proof, then how can he say that there is no proof?

Take an example, A person says to me "You are not son of your parents, there is no proof for it exists", now the other guy tries to convince him, but he keeps on saying "there is no proof, you are adopted"... Same is what majority atheists do. They do not sincerely try to know the proof (but, even change the definitions of terms,,,of ALL terms,,,even of the term God..).

So when a person has his OWN dictionary which he follows, how can communicatin be done with him?

Comment by archaeopteryx on May 19, 2012 at 8:00am

That's where you're mistaken Farhan, the burden of proof is on the one claiming he exists. If I say the Easter Bunny is real, if I expect anyone to believe me, I need to be prepared to prove that what I say is true.

pax vobiscum,
archaeopteryx

Comment by kOrsan on May 19, 2012 at 8:11am

Sure sure. Let me guess, Allah has blinded us from seeing the truth. (classic Muslim line)

Comment by M on May 19, 2012 at 8:23am

thats epic ... love it

Comment by archaeopteryx on May 19, 2012 at 10:49am

@kOrsan - It's hard to imagine what level of immaturity any god would have to have, to want to do that, or to forbid us to attain knowledge either, for that matter.

I try to put myself in that state of mind, to try to imagine what a god would have to be thinking, so I try to picture a father hiding "the truth" of any particular subject, from his children, and I just can't do it - it would take an emotionally stunted or even ill person to want to do that, and what sane person would respect the motivations of such an individual? I believe the Bible says, "By their works, shall ye know them." Well, judging by his alleged "works," I'd just as soon limit my contact.

Comment by kOrsan on May 19, 2012 at 10:57am

@archaeopteryx When they say that they usually mean that "You don't believe in Allah because Allah does not allow you to believe in him. So he is real even if you don't believe in him."

They turn everything around with their skewed logic.

Comment by Farhan Tahir on May 19, 2012 at 12:17pm

@archaeopteryx

Seems like you didnt even tried to read my post.

Thats Exactly what i said in my post. that if YOU Never came to know/ Or Never tried to Ask some theist that where is his proof...then how can you say that there is no proof?

in simple word "You do not know that other person has proof of something, but on other side, you are 100% sure that he does not have proof...."..should i call it negative thinking? or pessimism? or  something else?

Comment by kOrsan on May 19, 2012 at 12:51pm

Farhan, it's called "observation."

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