"God created (presumably in part through evolution) this world, you, me, and everything we know, he has complete authority."
Quotes like these make me so happy that I'm not dating anyone religious. I would not want to raise children with another person who somehow beliefs that creating something gives you completely authority over your creation.
It's sick and twisted logic that no moral person can hold on to.
Doesn't god already know everything? If so then you aren't exhibiting free will you are simply following a predestined path that was already known before you were even conceived, which rather makes the supposed purpose of life as a 'test' for entrance into heaven a completely pointless exercise with the outcome already having been decided. Alternatively, if god doesn't already know what you are going to do then he doesn't by definition know everything and there goes his claim to omniscience.
How can you have free will with a loaded gun to your head? You might still be able to choose in theory but it isn't in any way a realistic example of 'free choice'. If you really had free will then there wouldn't be any penalty for your making the 'wrong' choice. Would your parents condemn you to an eternity of torture for making a mistake? If they did they would be considered monsters yet somehow the same behaviour from your god is supposed to represent unconditional love. How can love be unconditional if it has conditions attached?
Perhaps you would also like to explain the free will involved in the child every three seconds who dies of starvation or disease, starvation often caused by the weather patterns that your god supposedly controls and diseases that he presumably created at the same time as all the other life on the planet. Do these children 'choose' to be born into poverty in an underdeveloped part of the world with minimal chances of making it to even their 5th birthday let alone adulthood? It's all part of god's plan I suppose that some people will be born into advanced, science based economies and live long and often happy lives while others are destined to live pitifully short lives under conditions of exterme hardship, often caused by the very religions that are supposed to give them hope. Hardly a fair test of 'faith' is it?
@ankilito .. I'm wondering where in the Bible it says God wasn't a smoker?
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