Evolution

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Comment by Dale Headley on March 23, 2012 at 6:20pm

   I propose we call the "Theory of Evolution" what it really is: the "LAW of Evolution."  To deny evolution is as preposterous as denying gravity.  EVERYTHING about biology is thoroughly explained by evolution.  God explains nothing!  Religion is nothing more than a surrender to ignorance by small minds in order to alleviate the fear of death.  Ironically though, death itself is an indispensable aspect of the evolutionary paradigm.  If nothing died, there would be nothing to drive natural selection.

Comment by Rob Klaers on March 23, 2012 at 7:06pm

The only issue with calling it a Law is that a Law helps to predict something happening. It doesn't explain it, like a Theory does. Basically, a scientific law is nothing more than a series of general observations. 

For instance, Newton's Law of Gravity could predict that if you threw an apple in the air it would fall back down, but it couldn't explain why it happened.. Whereas Newton's Theory of Gravity could explain that.. So a theory is the correct term. Otherwise, I agree with what you said. :) 

Comment by Diane on March 23, 2012 at 9:13pm

I think I might implode if another theist says that to me... that evolution is only a theory.  Did you know that the scientific theory of evolution is not taught to students in the part of Kansas where an acquaintance grew up?  It might not be taught in the whole state, for all I know.  I hate to wonder what they ARE teaching them.  It's no wonder theists don't understand.

I can say that my 8 year old has a basic understanding of evolution, and he would whether or not his school taught it.  At least I have control of that much.

Comment by Logicallunatic on March 23, 2012 at 10:44pm

For consistency, creationists need to protest about heliocentric theory... "we don't revolve round that darn Sun because it's only a theory". They can't have it both ways. 

Comment by Pope Beanie on March 23, 2012 at 10:45pm

Haha, thanks Rob.

And Never a Miscommunication!

Comment by Rob Klaers on March 23, 2012 at 11:59pm

Arch.. I had a discussion about the theory, law, hypothesis definitions, a few weeks back, with an ex-gf from HS (which for me was about 20+ yrs ago). She was a smart girl in HS. Took AP classes and such. Left me in the dust more then once in a number of our discussions back then.. So anyway since HS she majored in Science and then became a home-schooling theist. (no offense to the home-schoolers out there). During that recent discussion she tried to tell me that a theory is something which has yet to be proven. I had to call her on that and let her know she was a little off.. Basically saying that a theory is a collection of hypothesis which have yet to be unproven. Otherwise, how could we effectively use Germ Theory, Gravitational Theory, etc, if they weren't proven somehow? ... Then I quoted Einstein (paraphrased here because I don't remember where I found the quote) when he said about his Theory of Relativity that nothing could truly prove it, but it would take just one experiment to disprove it. Which is the essence of a Theory.. it only takes once to disprove it. ...After 150 years, you'd think creationists could have disproved evolution by now. :) 

Comment by Rob Klaers on March 24, 2012 at 4:04am

Arch..

Re: Theory.
      I couldn't agree more. 

Re: "(no offense to the home-schoolers out there)"

      Like you I have no issue with those who feel they can do better than the standard school system. I've known too many who've used home-schooling as you've said-- as a form of indoctrination, mainly religious. In the process disallowing their kids any connection with others their own age.. Ie, as you said about exposure to ideas and concepts other than their own. 


Comment by James Cox on March 24, 2012 at 5:10am

I have done tutoring off and on in mathematics. Most of the time I have had good results and the children seemed to show marked improvement, sometimes that improvement was not noticable for a few years after I had long disconnected. In one experience I faced a rather serious issue. A women had hired me to tutor her son who was falling behind. We sat down with his text books and slowly worked on problems to see where he was hanging up. It became clear that he was having problems with negative numbers and subtraction. The woman had tried home schooling and taken her son out of grade school, while she herself had not finished high school. While I was explaining a few procedures and methods of visualization for subtraction and negative numbers, the woman told me I was a fool, how dare I teach her son such crap! I felt like a deer in headlights at that moment, and slowly lifted myself up and walked quietly out the front door. I wonder sometimes what else I could have done for them..;p( 

Comment by Diane on March 24, 2012 at 7:18am

Archaeopteryx - Yes I really didn't want to hear that about Louisiana.  I'm going to go stick my head back into the sand now.

Comment by Logicallunatic on March 24, 2012 at 11:46am

James

Didn't you know visualization for subtraction is the work of the devil?

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