Christopher Hitchens name one moral action

Christopher Hitchens name one moral action

"Name one moral action performed by a believer that could not have been done by a nonbeliever." ~ Christopher Hitchens

Comment by _Robert_ on October 26, 2013 at 6:11am

Kill in the name of god?

Comment by Strega on October 26, 2013 at 9:36am

How about Jesus allegedly calling out "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do" (or something along those lines)?

Comment by Atheist Exile on October 26, 2013 at 9:47am

Hitchens died waiting for an answer. He could have lived forever without ever getting a serious answer.

Comment by Cameron on October 26, 2013 at 1:05pm

I think that the phrase "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do" was actually brought up to him once.  It's in a video on youtube, but unfortunately I can neither remember which one nor what his response was

Comment by H3xx on October 26, 2013 at 5:10pm

"Father, forgive them, they know not what they do" That phrase, admittedly taken out of context and examined on it's own, seems like a cop out. It seems like the "moral" christian is basically pointing out some immorality, but has yet to actually do anything about it, such as trying to educate the "immoral" people about why what they're doing is wrong. It's the equivalent of yelling, "Look there's someone caught in a fire!" instead of diving into the fire to rescue the victims. Not necessarily wrong, but not really right either.

Again, I'm examining the quote out of context, and with no known circumstances present.

Comment by SteveInCO on October 26, 2013 at 6:04pm

How about Jesus allegedly calling out "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do" (or something along those lines)?

That sounds like something that maybe Jesus said (and maybe not--even if he did exist), but it's not something many of his followers practice all that often. 

Recognizing that someone is not a "bad person" because they did something out of ignorance is certainly not a uniquely Christian trait, so I certainly wouldn't think of it as something only a Christian could do.

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on October 26, 2013 at 6:41pm

Comment by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on October 26, 2013 at 6:43pm

Here WL Craig thinks he has the answer. However while paying tithes or the worship of his god may be actions, they are not “moral actions” which was the question posed by Hitchens. They are all based on the assumption “that god exists” which even the greatest apologist you can conceive of suggested when he started with “if god exists”.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on October 26, 2013 at 6:54pm

"Father, forgive them, they know not what they do."

Take your pick.

God, feed the starving in Sudan.
God, house the victims of this hurricane.
God, forgive them for executing me.
Leprechauns, make this breakfast cereal magically delicious.

The fallacy: calling upon imaginary beings to take imaginary action is moral; belief itself is moral.

Take away the belief and a non-believing man forgives his executioners and calls for others to forgive them.

Fail.

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