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Comment by Heather Spoonheim on May 3, 2012 at 9:33am

I will not capitalize god and I feel everyone should stop doing it.  I will capitalize Yahweh, or Jesus, and even the Holy Ghost as proper nouns but I refuse to surrender the word 'god' to the Christians; all their gods have names and they can use them.  This whole mixing of the three into one English word is about a 400 year old phenomenon that comes from a time when the English speaking world was almost entirely Christian.  It obscures the contradiction of the religion, however, and I will not be party to that obfuscation.

Comment by Unseen on May 3, 2012 at 9:37am

You know, I hold to that maxim to "pick your fights carefully." I don't see any huge civil rights for atheists issue in the question of capitalizing God. In the end, this kind of thing annoys believers, and we can't annoy people into changing their minds. In fact, this sort of thing is likely to have the opposite effect of simply making us look like we're assholes who make it our job to bother them.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on May 3, 2012 at 9:47am

I AM an asshole who makes it my job to bother them.  For me it's not about civil rights - it's about not letting them build their cognitive virus into my language.  It's about forcing them to refer to their various gods separately as a way of peeling off the first layer of their delusion.

Comment by Unseen on May 3, 2012 at 9:48am

a) You will accomplish nothing; b) it's THEIR language as well.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on May 3, 2012 at 9:54am

Forcing them to refer to their gods by name is one of my strongest tools in debate and it HAS accomplished a lot in terms of getting the attention of fence sitters reading my exchanges on Youtube.  In the interest of separation of church and state, I feel that theists have no right to install their theology in any public institution and that includes my language -> whether or not it is theirs as well.

Comment by Unseen on May 3, 2012 at 10:16am

And, as a typical zealot, you are blind to the fact that you aren't forcing anyone to do anything, and can't. You'll just look like someone who is ignorant of the conventions of the English language. It will go right over the heads of the illiterates and will simply look like (and actually be) a mistake to those who know English.

Comment by Jim Minion on May 3, 2012 at 10:34am

Based on the examples given by Andrew I see no need to capitalize god. His example "I call my god, God". Fine let him capitalize his god if he wishes. But his god is not my god, it is one of 10,000s of gods, if you are going to use a proper name of a god then capitalization would be called for. Andrew is asking us to recognize his god as the god and capitalize it, screw him.

Comment by Unseen on May 3, 2012 at 10:37am

I guess we need to consider lower-casing Santa Clause, too, then.

The fact is, in our culture, "God" is just another name for "Yahweh" or "Jehovah," and as long as we are capitalizing those, "God" should be capitalized, too, when it refers to the nonexistent "Yahweh."

Comment by Jim Minion on May 3, 2012 at 10:43am

In our culture Yahweh or Jehovah are two name for the gods worshiped, we have Hindus, Muslims, and countless others worshiped in the US.

When i say "I see no proof for god" It includes then all. Xians get no special place on the list.

Comment by Matt G on May 3, 2012 at 10:46am

Yahweh, capital, god, not.  But it doesn't particularly bother me.  But if 'Dad' is capitalised, it is fair that 'god' is too, I just can't be arsed.


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