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Comment by Brendan on July 3, 2013 at 11:45pm

His novels would have been better if they weren't so preachy.

Comment by Simon Paynton on July 4, 2013 at 10:09am

If he can't trust his thinking, because his brain just happened by chance - why did he write that?  Why did he write books?  Why does he do anything?  Why doesn't he just sit in a chair dribbling? 

There are some excellent advocates for Christianity, but CS Lewis wasn't one of them, his stuff is embarrassing.  Even though his "normal" books were cool. 

Comment by Simon Paynton on July 4, 2013 at 10:24am

Damn you, CS Lewis. 

He's made a circular argument.  My brain was designed > I can think > my brain was designed.  Seriously.  Religion isn't something you can directly intellectualize about in that way. 

Comment by Physeter on July 4, 2013 at 12:15pm

I'll have to give this some thought. Here are my initial impressions:

I think, therefore I am.

Whether or not there is a god, I have direct experience in favor of the statement "I have a mind and can think."

Likewise, I believe in my own thought processes BEFORE I believe in god.

How do I know my senses don't deceive me, and my thoughts don't deceive me? Well, based on experience, I have found that behaving as if the world is real and my thoughts are accurate works, for some sorts of thoughts. I behave in this world as if I can trust my mind, and evidence seems to back it up.

My mind tells me how to find food, how to dress myself, how to comport myself to get along in society, how to obtain and hold a job, how to talk with a friend, how to cross the street. When I try to do these things, I find they work as I expect them to. Cars get closer based on how fast they're going and don't suddenly appear in your path. People generally respond as I expect them to when I talk to them. No one has to come along and do things for me because my efforts were unsuccessful. I've never been sent to a mental asylum.

It is inaccurate to say that trusting my "randomly" developed mind is like trusting a splatter of milk to be an accurate map of London. Instead, it's like being randomly given a map. I follow the map, and discover that it is a good match for real life, so I come to trust it even though I don't know who made it or who gave it to me.

"Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought." Instead, I would say, unless you believe in thought, you cannot believe in anything else. You can't truly convince yourself, or me, that thought does not exist; any other beliefs must come after that.

Comment by Physeter on July 4, 2013 at 2:38pm

No kidding Belle. I still love the CoN. It was really weird for me when I started reading The Last Battle again, as an atheist now, and thinking how much different the story would be if the animals weren't religious/superstitious.

Comment by Doug Reardon on July 4, 2013 at 4:02pm

Whoever said C. S. Lewis was an intellectual giant?

Comment by Simon Paynton on July 4, 2013 at 4:24pm

Thought exists, therefore God exists.  Therefore my brain was designed.  Therefore thought exists.  Therefore God exists.  Therefore CS Lewis should have stayed out of theology and making Christian thought a laughing stock.  It really doesn't have to be as lame as that.  There's plenty of good stuff around. 

Comment by Simon Paynton on July 4, 2013 at 4:32pm

CS Lewis still rocks though.  You can't dislike the man, judging from his work. 

Comment by _Robert_ on July 5, 2013 at 10:11am

The guy got famous espousing circular logic. He is all about fairy tales. I love his writing.

Comment by Kamela Johnston on July 5, 2013 at 11:17am

I went to a Christian high school & part of the curriculum was an apologetics class where Lewis' "Mere Christianity" was the main text. After completing a passage from it we'd all say, "Yes! Of course! It's so obvious!" then congratulate each other for being miniature philosophers. He's probably the closest thing to a saint that the Protestant church has.

But after watching various Richard Dawkins lectures & through my endeavor to read "The God Delusion" I'm learning how frustrating it is to atheists when people say that evolution is "random." Dawkins gets quite worked up about it. And the fact is, probably after Lewis' time granted, we've made great strides in understanding the development of the brain. But even if we didn't, why is it more rational & logical to believe in the Creation story? But I, for one, was never encouraged to take Lewis' theories and think them through. Just learn them & accept them as fact, much like Scripture.


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