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You can't prove the non-existence of anything. Prove to me that Bigfoot doesn't exist. Prove to me that unicorns don't exist. See what I mean?
What we CAN point to is the inaccuracies and mistakes of the bible, which demonstrate that it isn't the "inerrant word of god", but rather the writings of primitive humans who didn't truly understand how the world worked.
Leviticus 11: "These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, the vulture...and the bat." BATS AREN'T BIRDS.
"The rabbit, though it chews its cud..." RABBITS DON'T CHEW CUD.
"There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper." THOSE ALL ARE INSECTS AND HAVE SIX LEGS.
So do you still claim the bible to be "the word of god"? Do YOU AND I know more about "god's creatures" than he does?
Turn it around on this person:
1) Prove just ONE place in Cat in the Hat didn't exist
2) Prove that just ONE being in Cat in the Hat didn't exist
3) Prove that one event in the Cat in the Hat didn't happen
Can you prove just one, dear simple-minded xian?
Richard Johnson has given the correct reply to the challenge. One can only prove the existence of something, not the non-existence.
@Lotus and @Richard...awesome.
Haven't they proved that Nazareth never existed in the first century?
It may not be possible to prove a negative, but anyone who believes that a snake or a donkey has talked in a human language is a damn fool.
Well, lets go with 3. Jericho was uninhabited during both the early conquest proposed time, and the late conquest. The fall of Jericho told in that book never seems to have happened. Kathleen Kenyon excavated there, and her findings have consistently been re-confirmed. We know this because they didn't have bulldozers in ancient times, so all ruins were buried creating hills called tels. It leaves no question because pottery and the three types of dating used in archeology all work hand in hand. Though pottery alone can date things extrordinary well. The Wikipedia article on the subject is pretty thorough actually.
Not only that, but the book of Joshua and the book of Judges have different accounts of what cities were taken in conquest and what ones remained under Canaanite hands.
Done, and done.
Why do I have to disprove your claims? You made the claim, you back it up with evidence derived from repeatable, falseable experimentation that is subject to peer review. Until then stop bugging me with frivolous claims about your particular brand of sky-daddy.
By the way, what is ‘absolute proof’ supposed to be, anyway? First, most, if not all, knowledge is inferential, and second, the truth of every empirically based proposition is related to either the truth of other such empirically based propositions, or to certain kinds of fact (whatever facts may be). The latin verb absolvere, from the past participle of which – absolutus, a, um – the English adjective ‘absolute’ originates, means ‘to free’, for which reason the English adjective actually* means ‘viewed or existing independently and not in relation to other things’.** As concerns proof, evidence, and knowledge, this is obviously impossible, however.
* Unfortunately, many people use ‘absolute’ in the sense of ‘total’. Even Oxford Dictionaries Online lists this as the first meaning: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/absolute?q=absolute. Maybe this awkward use originates from the meaning ‘to complete’ which absolvere can take in certain (Latin) contexts.
** Emphases by me.
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