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Comment by Kairan Nierde on January 4, 2014 at 12:13am

@ Nicolas- each state proscribes its own curricula for public schools. If it's on a state curriculum, it should be taught in that state. That's no guarantee. Private schools can teach whatever they like. They set their own standards based on their beliefs and only answer to themselves and, perhaps, the people paying tuition. They generally do teach enough science for their students to get into college, but this does not have to include a good understanding of evolution.

There is a movement to unify what is taught across the nation because we recognize our schools are not teaching children well enough to compete globally. But, anything national is highly controversial among conservatives who exhalt "States Rights" and limited Federal government. There are even more extreme people who want to abolish the public school system entirely. Because our Southern States and/or former Slave States are still butthurt about losing our Civil War and also inordinately proud of their "way of life" (this way of life is highly skeptical of "Northern" ideas and values--all things industrial, scientific, academic, and pro-equality/diversity. These values have historically suffered rejection rather than southern hospitality.), people are very sensitive letting go of any local power.

Now, to bolster one of our two ubiquitous national political parties, these sentiments  (these conservative values--mainly, the hatred of science, nostalgia for "States' Rights," and promotion of creationsim) have been swept up and fused into national conservative propoganda. The creationism/evolution clash is not confined to it's Confederate Christian geographic roots. It's likely to be found anywhere that national conservative party values are embraced.

It's hard to capture the scale of the clash. In some places Evolution is simply not taught in public schools. In other situations, evolution will be "taught" in a dishonest manner that makes evolution seem obsurd so as to promote the "logic" of the Creation Story. In other areas evolution may be taught to a basic standard so that it can be learned and regurgitated by the student in order to meet state testing standards (Testing schemes dominate many school state systems). In these cases, both the student and the teacher may be going through the motions--not an ideal learning environment. In some of the better schools, which possess accurate text books (enough funding), capable science educators, responsible administrators, courageous local politicians, and/or are simply located in an area of the country that has a free intellectual climate, there may be no barriers at all around teaching proper evolution in the classroom.

Comment by James Cox on January 4, 2014 at 12:20pm

I remember a conversation my our HS biology teacher years ago. A few in our science club were really sick of the 'low brow' science content and we confronted the teacher after class. His position is that he wanted to keep his job, not all the kids were smart enough to deal with the subject, he had no materials, and he was afraid of the 'stink'. Under a more private setting, I talked with him again and he suggested that his religious beliefs could interfer.

It was rather sad. I was puttering with amino acids in the back room trying to make simple protein chains at the time..;p( 

Comment by ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp on January 4, 2014 at 2:33pm

this made me laugh , from observation, she does not even know what the word "science" means, and associates it with some voodoo shit, no wonder why she flunked the subject.

Comment by Physeter on January 4, 2014 at 2:44pm

I'm flunking this class, therefore science is satanic and I'm glad I don't understand it. Makes sense to me!

Comment by James Cox on January 4, 2014 at 7:51pm

Could this be just one more 'come-on'?

I expect one more come-back could  contain references to 'butt', 'size', 'tone', or 'occupation'....

Comment by Nicolas Gauvin on January 4, 2014 at 9:02pm

@Kairan Nierde and @RobertPiano

Thank you for taking the time to answer me as you did!

So, now it seems clearer to me. But I have to admit I find this system kinda bad …

I’m going to describe how the French educative system works in David Smith’s very interesting discussion: , you’ll see , it’s really different.


Comment by Gregg R Thomas on January 5, 2014 at 10:58am

Candidate for an upcoming Darwin Award.

Comment by James Cox on January 5, 2014 at 12:57pm

Sadly one can 'win' the 'Darwin Award' just by crossing the street....

Comment by SparkyMac on January 7, 2014 at 5:53pm

Haha.  Religion is made up by humans.

Note for Facebook poster: Science created the physics behind the computer and the website you're using.  Check it out >


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