Comment by Dale Headley on August 23, 2012 at 1:55pm

   A perfect picture of what is happening in the U.S. today.

Comment by Unseen on August 23, 2012 at 2:31pm

You may have to explain that a little bit. I do get the cartoon, but who is being executed in the U.S. today? You can't mean atheists. By and large we enjoy an execution-free life. We also enjoy the same freedoms as our eager-believer cohorts. So, what is the point?

Comment by Daniel Patrick Day on August 23, 2012 at 8:18pm

@Unseen

The point is not execution, but rather persecution.

Comment by Unseen on August 23, 2012 at 10:40pm

@Daniel Patrick Day

And you know this because that is your interpretation and your interpretations become facts? You didn't notice the noose, I suppose.

I think you're mistaking my comment as being about the cartoon. I guess I should have headed it with @Dale Headley whose comment on a cartoon depicting an execution was "A perfect picture of what is happening in the U.S. today."

His comment still mystifies me and he hasn't bothered to clarify his comment for us. I think perhaps he was simply being rather hyperbolic.

Comment by Ed on August 25, 2012 at 8:36am

@Unseen

I think you might be reading more into Dale's comment than necessary. Atheism is truly a bright idea.

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2012 at 8:55am

@Ed

And you are ignoring the "perfect" part of the comment. Even as a metaphor, things are not nearly that bad for atheists,

Comment by x on August 25, 2012 at 5:12pm

Well, they sure burned 

Giordano Bruno

and people are getting killed in Africa and other countries just because they are unbelievers. 

You can read some of the comments on Fox's web page and see how close to killing atheists

their viewers are.  I've been personally threatened with hell fire on several occasions.  

Hasn't been too long since they were lynching the blacks in the south.  Just a few years ago they dragged a black man to his death behind a pickup truck.  What makes you think they will not to that to a despicable atheist?

You're right, things are not that bad right now although in the south it may be worse than you think.  I think it would be easy for the mob mentality to take over when the preachers are spewing hatred in the churches.  Maybe you haven't been exposed to the red neck mentality.

 

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2012 at 6:16pm

@David

Let's limit our discussion to the U.S. Some wacko or a handful of wackos might take their hatred or paranoia or religious zeal out on an atheist, but I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.

You use the word "they" as though "they" (the ones who dragged a black man to his death) represent the majority. Poppycock!

And even if they did it to an atheist, that is something they did. It's not something almost anyone else would do. It's totally anomalous. You're like the foreigners outside the U.S. who read about some outrageous incident of police violence and conclude (using the fallacy of composition) that that is what American cops are like in general

Comment by x on August 25, 2012 at 8:44pm

Why do you think human nature has changed? I see no evidence of that. Sure, things are better for a lot of people now but human nature is much like it was 500 years or more ago when they burned Burno. Many of the people who were lynching blacks passed on their views except they are just not so open about it. Why should we limit our discussion to the U.S.? People are killing witches in Africa because of religion, you can poppycock (what ever that is) all you want. I don't think it would take much of a civil upheaval for people here in the south to revert to the human nature we see in other countries and have seen in the past in the good old USA. The people of the CSA killed and run off many of the freethinkers of the Latin communities of the hill country of Texas during the civil war. You have read of the holocaust where the good people of Germany turned against their fellow citizens haven't you? What makes you think that people are any better now? I think you just like to argue and use words like "poppycock".

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2012 at 9:00pm

I don't think human nature is determined or even described by the worst examples of human behavior. I also don't know what is accomplished by this fallacious reasoning.

Also, if those evil people in the South have stopped lynching blacks and now only think about it, that's a big improvement.

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