Comment by Dale Headley on August 23, 2012 at 1:55pm

   A perfect picture of what is happening in the U.S. today.

Comment by Unseen on August 23, 2012 at 2:31pm

You may have to explain that a little bit. I do get the cartoon, but who is being executed in the U.S. today? You can't mean atheists. By and large we enjoy an execution-free life. We also enjoy the same freedoms as our eager-believer cohorts. So, what is the point?

Comment by Daniel Patrick Day on August 23, 2012 at 8:18pm


The point is not execution, but rather persecution.

Comment by Unseen on August 23, 2012 at 10:40pm

@Daniel Patrick Day

And you know this because that is your interpretation and your interpretations become facts? You didn't notice the noose, I suppose.

I think you're mistaking my comment as being about the cartoon. I guess I should have headed it with @Dale Headley whose comment on a cartoon depicting an execution was "A perfect picture of what is happening in the U.S. today."

His comment still mystifies me and he hasn't bothered to clarify his comment for us. I think perhaps he was simply being rather hyperbolic.

Comment by Ed on August 25, 2012 at 8:36am


I think you might be reading more into Dale's comment than necessary. Atheism is truly a bright idea.

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2012 at 8:55am


And you are ignoring the "perfect" part of the comment. Even as a metaphor, things are not nearly that bad for atheists,

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2012 at 6:16pm


Let's limit our discussion to the U.S. Some wacko or a handful of wackos might take their hatred or paranoia or religious zeal out on an atheist, but I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing.

You use the word "they" as though "they" (the ones who dragged a black man to his death) represent the majority. Poppycock!

And even if they did it to an atheist, that is something they did. It's not something almost anyone else would do. It's totally anomalous. You're like the foreigners outside the U.S. who read about some outrageous incident of police violence and conclude (using the fallacy of composition) that that is what American cops are like in general

Comment by Unseen on August 25, 2012 at 9:00pm

I don't think human nature is determined or even described by the worst examples of human behavior. I also don't know what is accomplished by this fallacious reasoning.

Also, if those evil people in the South have stopped lynching blacks and now only think about it, that's a big improvement.

Comment by Joseph Barney on December 2, 2012 at 7:21pm

Read a bit of and ever since Obama was elected, hundreds more hate groups have sprung up in the USA. They think he's the "antichrist' and so on. That doesn't sound civilized to me. It's all over, not just in the south. Many are right wing Tea Party Republicans per what I read. It'd be the extreme ones though, since there's still some republicans shaking their heads at what goes on. There are still hate crimes happening and not just in the south. Take New York for example. Hate crimes still go on in the South including by the authorities. I subscribed to the FBI newsletter a while back and they're always busting cops in the south for this and that, and that Hatewatch Group, which redirects to Southern Poverty Law Center, works with the Feds to gather intel on and point out wrongdoings. For example, in Mississippi the very judicial system there is turning schools into a sort of puppy mill for the jails. Many kids end up in jail/prison due to inequality and racism. Go ahead and check out their articles. You don't have to read all of them to get a rough idea that things are pretty bad in some ways still, in the South. Some things never change. So far. Also, google white power and lone wolves. McVeigh was a bit of a lone wolf and there's others with similar beliefs. Then there's militias and other white nationalists too. There's a lot going on that the mainstream news doesn't bother reporting or reports enough. Another thing to remember is that not all hate crimes are reported or known. Life's not that perfect. Oh yeah, the FBI and other agencies have stopped a lot of assassination plans that were aimed at Obama. This isn't civilization as we've been taught it was.

Comment by Gallup's Mirror on December 3, 2012 at 3:39pm

"[Atheists] also enjoy the same freedoms as our eager-believer cohorts."

Sure we do, except when it comes to politics, the workplace, public schools, the Pledge of Allegiance, US currency, child custody, US and world history, the popular media, and relationships with family.

Otherwise, yes, we get to enjoy all the same freedoms as our nutjob cohorts.


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