Firstly there was music long before the time of mohammed, yet even if that was the case why can't we have music now. Did mohammed teach his followers that music was a sin? If so the guy was a douche bag and should be forgotten. If not then listen to whatever you like. Nice move taxi driver.
The Church of Christ does not allow musical instruments in their services because the bible says: "Make Ye a joyful noise unto the lord." Somehow, this is a big deal for them.
And yes Matt is correct, there was music long before Mohammed was fucking underage girls. It's even possible to locate our best reconstructions of ancient Greek music, which predates Xianity. And many of our modern musical instruments have origins lost in deep antiquity.
just illustrates the non acceptance of many cultures of "when in rome, do as the romans do" . same in the case for foreigners in saudi and other middle eastern countries, follow customs that may counter your own beliefs or face the consequences.
By order of the prophet We ban that boogie sound Degenerate the faithful With that crazy Casbah sound But the Bedouin they brought out The electric kettel drum The local guitar picker Got his guitar picking thumb As soon as the Sharia Had cleared the square They began to wail
Now over at the temple Oh! They really pack 'em in The in crowd say it's cool To dig this chanting thing But as the wind changed direction And the temple band took five The crowd caught a whiff Of that crazy Casbah jive
Very funny - something about which both a Christian and an atheist could share a laugh. But what if the cab driver were an atheist and the passenger a Christian? Would it have been considered equally appropriate and funny to both if the cab driver had disgorged his fare and suggested he could find his way on faith alone? Probably not.
No, the law of the land regarding a London taxi driver is that he cannot refuse to let a customer in his cab if he has his light on - but he can disgorge his passenger at any stage if the passenger gives him cause. This is so vague in real terms, that nothing is ever done when a taxi either sails past you without stopping when you hail him, or conversely tells you to leave his cab if you are doing something 'unreasonable'. Black cabs have their own weird code of conduct.
The passenger hasn't given him cause even in liberal interpretation, and one isn't allowed to refuse services on the basis of religious discrimination, no? In the premis and punchline of the anecdote, the passenger's religious belief is the cause for ejection. Taxi cab drivers are also not permitted to tell passengers to 'fuck off' according to London's regulations. While it may be impractical to meaningfully pursue complaints such as these, the cab driver is in the wrong. It's a nifty line for a joke, but I'd say the driver is an even bigger dick than the obnoxious passenger if it was a real-world case. If you agree to do a job, do it proper, not for the law, but for your own dignity.
You may be absolutely correct Kris, morally ethically and legally - but I'm guessing you're not familiar with London cabbie mentality, or the Londoners comfortable acceptance of it.
I am not familiar with it. I'm just stating that the 'when in Rome' element has another side to it here. Expecting Romans to live by Roman laws, even if they typically don't, would not be the imposition of an outsider.
All right Strega luv! – I reckon that cabbie got the right hump with that Muslim. There ‘e wos in the back of my fackin’ cab givin’ it large into my King’s Lear. No way mate was I havin’ that. So I told him I did! I told him good and proper to get the fack out of it mate. Though he was havin’ a laff. No facking way mate. Ger out of it. I opened the Bobby Moore for him I did. Not in my cab. I still have the ump and he is gone lookin’ for a camel with two off ‘em. Ha! whose fackin laffin now mate. Dropped him in the Elephant to find a fackin Camel. The dozey git! Cheers darlin’. Now where’s me Chas and Dave tape?
Confession - I lived for 5 years in old London town and 2 of them down the Elephant. While working as a research economist in a university I also moonlighted as a hackney (cab driver) for a little while.
Nuffin like proper cockney spoken with an Oirish accent lol.
Tom Pep
Fantastic!
Don't mess with us Brits, we got cabbie's on our side, you won't find a more intelligent and quick witted bunch.
Dec 11, 2012
Strega
Cackles - fantastic
Dec 11, 2012
Matt Thomas
Firstly there was music long before the time of mohammed, yet even if that was the case why can't we have music now. Did mohammed teach his followers that music was a sin? If so the guy was a douche bag and should be forgotten. If not then listen to whatever you like. Nice move taxi driver.
Dec 11, 2012
Doug Reardon
The Church of Christ does not allow musical instruments in their services because the bible says: "Make Ye a joyful noise unto the lord." Somehow, this is a big deal for them.
Dec 11, 2012
SteveInCO
Fantastic!
And yes Matt is correct, there was music long before Mohammed was fucking underage girls. It's even possible to locate our best reconstructions of ancient Greek music, which predates Xianity. And many of our modern musical instruments have origins lost in deep antiquity.
Dec 11, 2012
Dean Newman
Dec 11, 2012
RobertPiano
Dec 11, 2012
Ed
If I was the cabby I would of turned around and said "Radio silence is an extra 100 quid."
Dec 11, 2012
Strega
Yeah Ed, but our cabbies like to say, "Fuck off". And they like the opportunity to do so, grin. Seek and ye shall find :)
Dec 12, 2012
Dale Headley
Very funny - something about which both a Christian and an atheist could share a laugh. But what if the cab driver were an atheist and the passenger a Christian? Would it have been considered equally appropriate and funny to both if the cab driver had disgorged his fare and suggested he could find his way on faith alone? Probably not.
Dec 12, 2012
Kris Feenstra
"...follow customs that may counter your own beliefs or face the consequences."
Although, in this case the law of the land sides with the passenger and not the cabbie (if this was an actual event).
Dec 12, 2012
Strega
No, the law of the land regarding a London taxi driver is that he cannot refuse to let a customer in his cab if he has his light on - but he can disgorge his passenger at any stage if the passenger gives him cause. This is so vague in real terms, that nothing is ever done when a taxi either sails past you without stopping when you hail him, or conversely tells you to leave his cab if you are doing something 'unreasonable'. Black cabs have their own weird code of conduct.
Dec 12, 2012
Kris Feenstra
The passenger hasn't given him cause even in liberal interpretation, and one isn't allowed to refuse services on the basis of religious discrimination, no? In the premis and punchline of the anecdote, the passenger's religious belief is the cause for ejection. Taxi cab drivers are also not permitted to tell passengers to 'fuck off' according to London's regulations. While it may be impractical to meaningfully pursue complaints such as these, the cab driver is in the wrong. It's a nifty line for a joke, but I'd say the driver is an even bigger dick than the obnoxious passenger if it was a real-world case. If you agree to do a job, do it proper, not for the law, but for your own dignity.
Dec 12, 2012
Strega
You may be absolutely correct Kris, morally ethically and legally - but I'm guessing you're not familiar with London cabbie mentality, or the Londoners comfortable acceptance of it.
Dec 12, 2012
Kris Feenstra
I am not familiar with it. I'm just stating that the 'when in Rome' element has another side to it here. Expecting Romans to live by Roman laws, even if they typically don't, would not be the imposition of an outsider.
Dec 12, 2012
Reg The Fronkey Farmer
All right Strega luv! – I reckon that cabbie got the right hump with that Muslim. There ‘e wos in the back of my fackin’ cab givin’ it large into my King’s Lear. No way mate was I havin’ that. So I told him I did! I told him good and proper to get the fack out of it mate. Though he was havin’ a laff. No facking way mate. Ger out of it. I opened the Bobby Moore for him I did. Not in my cab. I still have the ump and he is gone lookin’ for a camel with two off ‘em. Ha! whose fackin laffin now mate. Dropped him in the Elephant to find a fackin Camel. The dozey git! Cheers darlin’. Now where’s me Chas and Dave tape?
Dec 12, 2012
Strega
For Reg, with tumultuous applause!!!
Dec 12, 2012
Reg The Fronkey Farmer
Confession - I lived for 5 years in old London town and 2 of them down the Elephant. While working as a research economist in a university I also moonlighted as a hackney (cab driver) for a little while.
Nuffin like proper cockney spoken with an Oirish accent lol.
Dec 12, 2012