Atheists who love Science!

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  • Tom Sarbeck

           It reminds me too much of the creationist agenda....

    Think Ptolemy. His circular orbits needed hypothesized smaller circles upon his original circles.

    I don't know how many more hypothesized still smaller circles he added before Kepler(?), following Galileo, hypothesized elliptical orbits. We know whose hypotheses had observable evidence.

    Ptolemy had no such evidence and the Bangers are still looking for some.

    As for conspiracies, do as investigative reporters do: follow the trail of money.

    The money trail started during the Cold War when the USSR launched a man into earth orbit.

    America's leaders knew the same vehicle could put weapons into earth orbit, and the money started flowing. A big side benefit was the improvement of math and science education. In many states, teaching evolution was illegal and schools were still teaching Genesis.

  • Tom Sarbeck

          Can you recommend any particular scientist....

    Halton Arp, in Wikipedia:

    If the lines in the spectrum of the light from a star or galaxy appear at a lower frequency (shifted toward the red) than where they are observed in the spectrum of the Sun, we say this object exhibits 'positive redshift'.  The accepted explanation for this effect is that the object must be moving away from us.  This interpretation is drawn by analogy with the downward shift in the pitch of a train whistle as it passes through a railroad crossing and then speeds away from us.  The question is: Is recessional velocity the only thing that can produce a redshift, as modern astrophysicists presume?  It has become clear that the answer to that question is an emphatic NO!

  • Pope Beanie

    Ok, thx for Halton Arp.

    Btw, I should be more clear after comparing EU advocacy to creationism advocacy. Anyone who can understand their arguments (even if they disagree with those arguments) is way ahead of me! I still have much to learn.