Why sin does not exist--according to what most Christians believe.

In relation to my previous discussion on ethics, I am interested in others views on "sin."

Now, for a Christian that believes Jesus dies to save them from their sins, and believe Paul when he said the laws no long apply--this means technically, there is no such thing as sin.  You see, if there are no laws, then there is nothing to break--hence no such thing as sin.

Christian will claim they follow the "Ten Commandments"--but those were part and parcel of the laws--they were not separated from any of the other OT laws--so they too no longer apply.  The distinctions between civil, moral and ceremonial laws are arbitrary--imposed on the text from outside of the text.  Men separated them for their own convenience.  Oh, and just for amusements sake, the real ten commandments that are said to be in the ark of the covenant are in Exodus 34, and end with "Don't cook your goats in mother's milk"--lol.  Yes, it's true!  I find some of the best comedies and tragedies within the pages of that book!..:)

If Christians claim all they must do is love Jesus and love their neighbors as themselves, they are wrong about that too.  You see, Jesus did not say the laws no longer apply--Paul did!  So really, Christians who claim the laws no longer apply are followers of Paul--not Jesus.  Jesus said to follow ALL the laws and ALL the prophets until heaven and earth disappear.  (Matt 5:17-20)

So, if Christians believe the OT laws no longer apply, they are followers of Paul, and there is no "sin," as sin is defined as a transgression against god's laws.  If Christians do follow the OT laws, then they are followers of Jesus, and can commit sin.

Personally, I believe that if you teach someone they are good and worthy, and if they make a mistake they must take responsibility for their actions, you will have many more people doing things that are good and worthy, as opposed to the "born sinners' who are taught they cannot help but to "sin" as no one is "good"

So what do you think a Christian means by "sin"?

Load Previous Replies
  • up

    onyango makagutu

    Anything that makes us happy here :)

    • up


      My interpretations of the things attributed to Jesus that you are talking about was that the "love thy neighbor as thyself" was supposedly his summation of all that the old Law basically boiled down to.  That's because (if I recall correctly) some "establishment" rabbi trying to trip him up had asked him to sum up the Law.  I was just about to say that I'd be damned (ahem) if I could see how "thou shalt not boil a kid in its mother's milk" could possibly have any relation to that.... then I realized you'd quoted the very same rule.  I believe THAT set of ten commandments was replacement for the more famous ten after Moses threw his hissy fit.

      • up


        I will say this: some Christians will claim that Jesus's crucifixion was "the end" or whatever. When he said "it is finished!" I really don't get why he'd bother advising people about how to act for the next few years/months/weeks before his death and resurrection, but... apparently all the laws applied up *until* he died and rose again.