"If death is the end of everything, then living is everything"

Some people say there was heaven and hell, others think about soul, some also believes in reincarnation.. how about you? what do you think of it? what will you do if this is the end of everything?

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    Hi Micmic,

    I gather you are exploring atheism, and you are trying to see how it might be for you.  I also understand English is not your first language and I think you are doing very well in putting your thoughts down.

    This is about understanding for yourself.  Actually, I like the title of your post, because to me that is a statement and not a question.  Life is everything.  This is the only life you will experience, certainly as you exist, in this place and time.  Atheists are people who do not believe in gods. So this life is an amazingly precious one to us.  Irreplaceable, in fact.

    Mostly atheism rules out any afterlife you will ever have heard of, because these all have some kind of god in them, judging and rewarding and punishing. Theists believe that If you are obedient in your life, there will be a lovely second life waiting for you with a god in the middle. 

    Some atheists are open to there being some kind of evolved or scientific afterlife, but not with a reward/punishment crossroads. You see we have a problem with the 'judging' because we don't accept there's a judge (god), so any vague feelings an atheist would have about what happens after you die, would be more than likely based on the idea of a natural progression, not a designed one.

    A 'soul' has a different meaning to every person because it is, by its very nature, a self-perception. 

    But THIS is not the end of everything.  THIS is today, in 2012.  There will be next year, for you, and the year after that, and so on.  I hope you will have a long and happy life.  Let me ask you something.  Think of your absolutely most ideal day.  How many years do you think you could live that same day over and over again before you went crazy? 

    If we stop learning, and we stop changing, what is left?  Boredom.  If we are in a place (heaven) where we are going to be perpetually happy, there is nothing to learn because there is no point doing a puzzle when you have the answers in the back of the book.  Now, how long do you think we would last, until we just screamed for change?  A hundred years?  I doubt I could manage ONE year. 

    But that's OK, because I won't have to.  When I'm dead, my atoms will go spinning back into this planets recycling system, explode with the sun, and be scattered across the universe.  No insane repetition for me.

    What a relief, eh?

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    Kir Komrik

    Hey Micmic,

    I'm possibly going to surprise some people here. To me atheism is a lack of belief in gods. As for the "mind" continuing to exist after "corporeal" death, I can't say its impossible or doesn't happen. But I can tell you this, gods have nothing to do with it. Its one of those things you can never really disprove so its fun to ponder. Buts that all you get out of it.

    - kk

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      I really believe that when we die, that's it.  In the same way life has gone on since my father died, so will it go on after I die, just without me in it.  I believe I can't say definitively that there is no god, but I sincerely doubt that anybody actually knows the true nature of any deity that may exist.  Part of my problem with believing in god is, ironically, believers in any one deity and/or manifestation of a deity.  I think it's incredibly arrogant and ignorant at the same time for anybody to claim they know the one true god and then to be evangelical about it.  If I encountered somebody who seemed to have actually found a god, I would think that person's presence, words, and way of living would attract people naturally.  It would be a very powerful thing to have met a deity.