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My book about cats was published online today. It's 21 Things to Consider Before You Get a Cat. I wrote it under a pen name (my real name is NOT Tom Howard, but the picture of me on the author page is of me, about 20 years ago).
Cats do such amazing things. So, my bicycle is in my living room. ?Squeaky looks at it and jump up from the floor to the bar that runs from the seat post to the handlebar post. After a momentary struggling for balance, she just sat down on it. Ridiculously amazing sense of balance.
This is my bestest buddy, Lucifer. I can't imagine my life without him.
Cats are sensual in a way that dogs are not.
@Rocky John - I will check out all that stuff about dogs vs. wolves, etc.
@the Atheist who Stole from Jesus - I like holding Squeaky with my shirt off. She's so warm. It reminds me of when I visited my daughter shortly after she gave birth and I would lay my grandkid on my bare chest. Such a pleasant sensation.
Cats are so cute when they cuddle up next to you and nap. They adopt such contorted postures and sometimes cover their eyes with their paws.
Link 5 did not post properly so i will put it here
another one of interest. "Whatever happened to the term alpha wolf"
I have gone to pains to point out that in most cases the behavioral changes are far more subtle than outright craziness. Such as finding the smell of cat urine more palatable.
It is not just a hypothesis. Firstly he is a world recognized wolf expert."Lucyan David "Dave" Mech (born January 18, 1937) is an internationally recognized wolf expert, a senior research scientist for the U.S. Department of the Interior's U.S. Geological Survey (since 1970), and an adjunct professor at the University of Minnesota in St. Paul. He has researched wolves since 1958"
Secondly he's hypothesis is the accepted curriculum in universities. I actually first learned about it by paging through my friends text book that he had from an animal behavior course he did. And this was from Oxford university , not some two bit degree mill.
The fact is that the earlier research definitely was based upon seriously flawed studies of wolves in captivity. Not in their natural environment. Now there are some cases where unrelated wolf packs will come together and display behavior closer to what you believe. But this is the exception rather than the rule.
But even if this was a hypothesis(and 100% wrong to boot) , the fact remains that dogs are not wolves , and have not been so for tens of thousands of years. They have evolved down different paths due to completely different selection pressures. Some of the most striking examples of this is that dogs are not monogamous, feral dogs tend to live not in socially structured packs but rather form amorphous group associations , neither do feral dogs have a feeding order , and males do not kill the puppies of other males. Which are nothing like wolves. i will provide a number of links and studies below supporting this based upon the work of actual scientists and animal behaviorists. While all the stuff supporting the dominance hierarchy are either out of date ,or from supporters like Ceaser Milan. Ie non scientists who have never taken a university degree on animal behavior. Many animal trainers also subscribe to this outdated view. Which can be explained that there is no educational requirement to calling yourself a dog trainer. There are even courses that are a few hours long that certify you as an animal trainer afterwards. Calling them degree mills would actually be a complement.
Most cat lovers are just cat lovers and aren't particularly crazy. Hoarders can hoard other animals, dogs included. While I was living in Portland, Oregon, there was a rabbit hoarder. And what about people who keep and fly flocks of pigeons.
As for your point regarding dogs, so far the analysis you are espousing seems to be just a hypothesis which, though seemingly supported by HIS research, isn't the accepted description of wolf pack hierarchy.
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