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Permalink Reply by Jeff Melton on August 20, 2011 at 11:24am Huh? By that logic, we shouldn't kill newly conceived fetuses because they have a high probability of some day developing full self-awareness. Are you secretly Catholic? And, again, what about the severely mentally retarded, severely mentally ill, demented, etc.? They don't have the potential of which you speak, yet we grant them rights. The basis of human rights, at least in the view of just about everybody I've ever met besides you, is not the fact that humans have current or potential self-awareness; otherwise, we wouldn't grant rights to individuals who belong to the above groups.
Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on August 20, 2011 at 6:11pm
Permalink Reply by Stephen Walski on August 15, 2011 at 7:58pm The same rational argument for life of an animal can be used for the life of a cabbage though.
So what is your criteria for determining what lifeforms on earth get rights?
Permalink Reply by oneinfinity on August 15, 2011 at 9:11pm If you can comprehend that there is a difference between a cabbage and a human then you should also be able to comprehend that there is a difference between a cabbage and a cow.
Permalink Reply by Stephen Walski on August 15, 2011 at 9:13pm I can and i can also differentiate between a cow and a human.
Your ability to differentiate is what is in question here.
Permalink Reply by Stephen Walski on August 15, 2011 at 9:12pm I used human in the terms of species which is what we are discussing... not individual illnesses and exceptions. But if you want to eat the mentally ill go for it.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Melton on August 20, 2011 at 11:08am By that logic, Stephen, babies and severely mentally retarded people should have no rights because they "are unable to reason to the point of identifying rights." Do you really not understand how absurd this logic is?
Permalink Reply by sukhdeep on August 15, 2011 at 8:25am maybe some people on here who have very harsh views against vegans should give their own bodies a closer look instead.
Permalink Reply by Heather Spoonheim on August 15, 2011 at 6:02pm So, you're too sexy to eat meat? I'll take a look at Olympic Athletes as the form most widely considered appealing, and as I do I notice that fewer than a fraction of a percent of gold medalists have ever been vegan.
Permalink Reply by sukhdeep on August 15, 2011 at 9:45pm maybe u should give up, to look sexy like me
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