Carracci - The Butchers Shop - 1583
The name of that device goes back to comparative psychologist Harry Harlow and a device he developed for animal experimentation. There are a lot of colloquialisms in the food industry though, for instance the 'stairway to heaven' found leading to the kill chamber in many slaughterhouses - because cattle can walk up steps easier than ramps.
Artificial insemination of cattle does cause them some distress but you can't begin to compare that to the emotional scarring suffered by a human rape victim. To do so truly reveals your disdain for your own species.
And I didn't make that comparison. The dairy industry did.
No, you did - you typed the words, without any citation, so it was a comparison made by you. If you are now claiming that the comparison also happened to be made elsewhere then you are offering nothing but a post hoc rationalization of your moral repugnance.
I'm assuming that means you still have nothing to bring to the table other than your obsessive concern that eating meat will make you or your child obese. Get help.
I didn't compare a cow to a woman. You implied it is morally justified to eat animals simply because we can. I asked you if you thought that the ability to do something automatically made it moral. I then gave you a couple of examples of things we have the ability to do that are not generally considered moral. I apologize if you were unable to follow this line of reasoning. I'll try to be more simple from now on so I don't lose you.
I understand that you don't care about the suffering you cause animals. You have made that quite clear. You still have not offered a moral justification for needlessly causing animals to suffer. You have only expressed your sense of apathy.
Predatory animals (not just mammals) do kill other animals and eat them. One key difference between humans and these other animals is that we do not need to kill and eat other animals to survive. Another difference is that we have evolved a more sophisticated awareness of the consequences of our actions. Just because other animals do certain things, does not mean that we should. Some animals eat their own young. Does that mean that we should?
I told you its not a moral question for me since i dont consider it needless.
There is a need and that is as a predator i want to eat that. Plain and simple.
And if you want to eat your young go for it. There are social laws about that. Lucky for us there isnt one about eating tasty meat though.
You do understand the difference between a need and a want, right?
They need to die to satisfy that.
I wonder if that would hold up in a court of law for other things. Imagine someone who stole a car stereo told the judge "I wanted it. I needed to steal it to have it. Therefore, stealing is okay."
Oh wait, I hope I didn't lose you again. To be clear, I am not comparing a cow to a car stereo.
Hey if you want to eat a car stereo i would defend that in court.
There is a reason we have eyes in the front of our head - we are the predators. Vehement little lot, these vegans.
As always, brilliant Heather and Stephen - I am still laughing....