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Permalink Reply by Loop Johnny on November 7, 2010 at 12:52pm

Mine have decided also that "it's only a phase" and that I will "find out".

My atheism is, according to them, a sign of stupidity. (I wish I got the logic behind that.
Logic is fairly simple. Their form of deductive logic is based on what they know ( their experience ).
Based on the fact that there is a God that created us, that there is a hell, there is an afterlife, unbelief is a sin and that God is the source of morality that is indeed a sign of stupidity.

If all of them are not valid or uncertain, then the deducted conclusion is also uncertain. All those work on the principle of "there is a God". That principle came from a book called the Bible. If the Bible is valid, everything that comes from it is also valid ( like theists like to think ). If the Bible is invalid, the most plausible explanation, then what is based on it is invalid.

Theists don't argue if the foundation of their religion is certain or uncertain. They just blindly accept it. Everything is open to debate, even "holy" texts ( holy means it is not meant to change, which is false ). If theists doubt the foundation, they will become atheists.

Simple logic is simple.

Permalink Reply by Loop Johnny on November 7, 2010 at 1:39pm

I understand. I think it is fairly simple.

They believe in an immaterial realm. Inside that imaginary( although they do not admit ) realm they think is the same with reality. When you believe that everything inside that realm has a connection to reality, then you can stop observing or asking for evidence. You can just blindly believe anything that that realm provides it. Another problem is that if reality is ok with something ( e.g. gay marriage ) and that realm is not, you will choose in favor of that imaginary world instead of what is actually certain.

People confound uncertainty with certainty. In that position you can believe anything that your "faith" lets you. That is the real problem. They are not acting according to reality, but according to their personal realm that they consider it is true and the only one ( thus, certainty from uncertainty ).

Depending on the doctrine, they act differently. For being gay, a Christian would verbally assault you, a Muslim would physically assault you/ execute you.

It is all a game that they don't know they are playing. They are living inside their mind for their mind. That is usually called a madman. When they believe in god we call them theists.

Permalink Reply by Loop Johnny on November 7, 2010 at 2:03pm

more detail: http://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/religion-as-a-game

Permalink Reply by Maya Komrik on November 22, 2012 at 5:42am

No believers in my family, but there is too much secrecy in my family about it. I think it has made my life much, much better because I can think clearly. Yes, I wouldn't trade anything for the free thinking this has allowed me. Almost everyone else I know lives in Wonderland.