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A Dark Milky Way?

Started by JadeBlackOlive. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck on Friday. 6 Replies

African clawed frog

Started by JadeBlackOlive. Last reply by Pope Beanie Oct 21. 2 Replies

Where does increased complexity come from in evolution?

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3.7-billion-year-old fossils

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Atheists Think about What We Believe, Don't We?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Aug 12. 4 Replies

CuriosityStream, anyone?

Started by Pope Beanie. Last reply by TJ Jul 13. 2 Replies

Neanderthals used fire in caves:

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Fossil Dog

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Pre-Clovis civilization in Florida

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Teeth vs. Tools

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‘Trickle of food’

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Diet affects the evolution of birds

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How Dinosaurs Grew From Hatchlings to Adults

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Comment by Tom Sarbeck on October 17, 2016 at 1:15am

An informative article, Beanie, but is natural selection clever or does it merely function?

Even experienced science writers can slip up.

The author wrote The chunks of arachnid DNA were probably stolen by the virus to help it punch through animal cells. [Emphasis added.]

Natural selection has a purpose?

The author wrote It was a surprise because bacterial viruses were generally thought to steal DNA only from bacteria. [Emphasis added.]

... viruses were hypothesized to steal....

Beanie, I wrote computer user manual text and it had to be clear. Later I wrote semi-legal stuff and lawyers are really picky.

Comment by JadeBlackOlive on October 16, 2016 at 6:18pm

I just read this somewhere.......who knew?

Comment by Pope Beanie on October 16, 2016 at 6:08pm

Virus stole poison genes from black widow spider - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37632616

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 29, 2016 at 3:37pm

Ok, thx for Halton Arp.

Btw, I should be more clear after comparing EU advocacy to creationism advocacy. Anyone who can understand their arguments (even if they disagree with those arguments) is way ahead of me! I still have much to learn.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on June 29, 2016 at 3:48am

      Can you recommend any particular scientist....

Halton Arp, in Wikipedia:

If the lines in the spectrum of the light from a star or galaxy appear at a lower frequency (shifted toward the red) than where they are observed in the spectrum of the Sun, we say this object exhibits 'positive redshift'.  The accepted explanation for this effect is that the object must be moving away from us.  This interpretation is drawn by analogy with the downward shift in the pitch of a train whistle as it passes through a railroad crossing and then speeds away from us.  The question is: Is recessional velocity the only thing that can produce a redshift, as modern astrophysicists presume?  It has become clear that the answer to that question is an emphatic NO!

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on June 29, 2016 at 3:32am

       It reminds me too much of the creationist agenda....

Think Ptolemy. His circular orbits needed hypothesized smaller circles upon his original circles.

I don't know how many more hypothesized still smaller circles he added before Kepler(?), following Galileo, hypothesized elliptical orbits. We know whose hypotheses had observable evidence.

Ptolemy had no such evidence and the Bangers are still looking for some.

As for conspiracies, do as investigative reporters do: follow the trail of money.

The money trail started during the Cold War when the USSR launched a man into earth orbit.

America's leaders knew the same vehicle could put weapons into earth orbit, and the money started flowing. A big side benefit was the improvement of math and science education. In many states, teaching evolution was illegal and schools were still teaching Genesis.

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 28, 2016 at 9:27pm

It reminds me too much of the creationist agenda to discredit modern evolutionary science, by "teaching the controversy". Their list of supposedly respectable scientists that debunk evolution was easily countered with a much longer list known as Project Steve.

Can you recommend any particular scientist or two on the Open Letter list for their credibility? So far, I see the majority of EU support coming from people (like Jeff Rense) who make a living by pushing pseudoscience, and pandering to an audience that distrusts conventional science as a rule of thumb.

For those reasons, I have more confidence in scientists who don't claim that their opponenents just belong to some conspiratorial group, with ulterior motives... unless perhaps they're rediculously popular on one of those generally anti-mainstrean talk shows majoring in woo, e.g. fantasies about "parallel universes", etc.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on June 28, 2016 at 5:51am

An Open Letter to the Scientific Community

Search on the above and read. What say you?

Comment by JadeBlackOlive on June 3, 2016 at 7:44pm

Oddly enough, I really don't like to watch things on the computer for some reason. I may watch a favourite musician on YouTube, but a song or two is about my limit.

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 3, 2016 at 7:42pm

I know what you mean... I don't even have TV, but use websites like PBS or youtube channels for video. I probably get most of my science news from audio podcasts when I fall asleep at night.

 

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African clawed frog

Started by JadeBlackOlive. Last reply by Pope Beanie Oct 21. 2 Replies

3.7-billion-year-old fossils

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A Dark Milky Way?

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Atheists Think about What We Believe, Don't We?

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