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Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice and Fire)

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The Magic of Reality, Richard Dawkins

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"Arguably" by Christopher Hitchens

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"The Greatest Show on Earth" - Read Along!

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bertrand russell

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"The Greatest Show on Earth" - Discussion 1 (Preface & Chp 1)

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The Non-Existence of God

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Comment by Seth on April 8, 2010 at 12:51pm
Thank you for the link to The Language of Ignorance!
Comment by Misty: Baytheist Living! on December 27, 2009 at 6:20pm
Hey.. does anyone know where I can download some audiobooks to my iphone for free? I'm broke, but have lots of listening time at work.
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Comment by Susan Michelle on November 26, 2009 at 7:55am
Agreed on the misuse of quantum theory a la 'What the Bleep do we Know." This guy is a little more sophisticated than that and thus far hasn't invoked the uncertainty principle or quantum mechanics explicitly. His contention is that we can't predict the emergent property of a complex system based on looking at its underlying components. As I said, there is an argument to be made there, at least given our current state of knowledge. Tempurature of a gas is a case in point: Temperature is an emergent property that you can't discern from studying one particle. But my point is: So what? You can't determine a lot of things by looking at one component. That doesn't mean it can never be known and it certainly doesn't mean we should couch it in mystical language. I think he wants to say that the emergent creative property of the particles of the entire uni- or multi-verse is "god". Well, screw that. If the universe had an emergent creative propertty then the laws of thermodynamics would be out the window.
Comment by Dave G on November 25, 2009 at 12:13pm
The concept's certainly not original with this author. Throwing 'quantum effects' in to provide some fuzziness that god (spirits, the will of the cosmic all, etc) can be stuffed into is distressingly common and intellectually bankrupt.
Comment by Susan Michelle on November 25, 2009 at 6:16am
I'm sorry I don't remember the author's name offhand. I think it's Kaufmann or Kauffman?
Comment by Susan Michelle on November 25, 2009 at 6:16am
Has anyone read a book called Reinventing the Sacred? I've just started reading it so I'm trying to withold judgement but I can't help but feel slightly annoyed. The author's contention is that particle physics (reductionism) is insufficient for explaining emergent phenomena (complexity theory). OK...there is arguably a point to be made there. What I object to is his insistence that emergent properties are unpredictable and therefore unknowable and hence we should call the phenomena "god". wtf??? I think he's being intellectually lazy and pandering to the widest possible audience by suggesting that we can all agree on this definition of god. Ummm...no.
Comment by Reggie on November 24, 2009 at 10:47pm
Shubin's Your Inner Fish is a great book, too! I second that recommendation.
Comment by Don't label my essence! (Jared) on November 24, 2009 at 7:25pm
Though it isn't exactly a book on Atheism, I highly recommend "Your Inner Fish" by Neil Shubin. It's a short (a bit less than 220 pages), humorous, and fantastically enlightening explanation of evolution and how we know what we do about it. Shubin touches on range of subjects including paleontology, developmental biology, and embryology; all the while keeping things accessible and entertaining for any level of reader. If you'd like to start learning a little bit about Evolutionary Biology then this is a great place to start.
Comment by Reggie on November 22, 2009 at 9:18pm
Demon Haunted World is one of my all time favorites! It was the third in a trio of books I read back to back to back that changed my life and my views of the world.
 

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