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Comment by Andrew Brown on Tuesday

Not only can we be both well and good without God, we can be better. -Victor Stenger

Comment by Andrew Brown on March 7, 2017 at 12:28pm

All religions are on a tottering foundation -Luther Burbank

Comment by Andrew Brown on March 1, 2017 at 12:18pm

He who opens a school door, closes a prison.
-Victor Hugo

Comment by Violetta Fay on February 23, 2017 at 12:10am

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". - Karl Marx

A beautiful summation of how I feel about religion.

Comment by Marino Baca on August 4, 2016 at 2:03am
It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong. -Thomas Jefferson
Comment by Violetta Fay on July 19, 2016 at 3:43am

“Listen to what is being preached today. Look at everyone around us. You've wondered why they suffer, why they seek happiness and never find it. If any man stopped and asked himself whether he's ever held a truly personal desire, he'd find the answer. He'd see that all his wishes, his efforts, his dreams, his ambitions are motivated by other men. He's not really struggling even for material wealth, but for the second-hander's delusion - prestige. A stamp of approval, not his own. He can find no joy in the struggle and no joy when he has succeeded. He can't say about a single thing: 'This is what I wanted because I wanted it, not because it made my neighbors gape at me'. Then he wonders why he's unhappy.” 
― Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 13, 2016 at 12:21am

(I often write expecting theists will read it.)

Belief in God
doesn't absolve you
from learning science,
helping to shape its future,
and practicing critical thinking.

Science requires an open mind and courage,
because it's about adjusting texts to newest evidence,
and is NOT about eternally defending supposedly infallible dogma.

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 12, 2016 at 6:44pm

(Whoops, wrt the relevance of Transparency, I meant to add "speak your mind" in spite of beliefs forced upon you, albeit speak humbly.)

Comment by Pope Beanie on June 12, 2016 at 6:40pm

Today I woke up focused on Tolerance and Transparency, as if the lack of them might explain world problems.

Too many ideas already buzzing in my head at once, I recalled another meme I push, which is that "no belief system requiring itself to be forced onto others deserves credibility or respect". Trying to shorten this, I got:

  • Forced Beliefs Destroy Truth

I googled that phrase, and apparently, this post should become the first time that phrase has hit the internet. Strange, or... my one-ness with the universe (and/or Truth) isn't as profound right now as it feels. Anyway, coming back to the two Ts of Tolerance and Transparency, I add Truth.

My emphasis on Transparency is related to how best people can react to forceful beliefs systems... not by avoiding the debate or pure tolerance, but by being transparent about one's own beliefs. In fact, one should not only remain transparent, but occasionally skeptical of one's own beliefs.

To conservatives, the above must sound weak in character. After all, the goal is it "stay the course", as a matter of tradition, perhaps since the good ole' days always seem better than today. It's easier to expect populations to follow rules than it is to tolerate any dissent, or (at times) hints of dissent. Order/Security above Freedom/Tolerance.

I might be overestimating myself, but someday I think I'll write a good piece about Tolerance, Transparency, and "Truth", keeping those quotes in the title.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on May 15, 2016 at 5:48pm

Someone more famous than I has probably expressed a thought I like, but I don't know her or his name.

I don't have the time to think my way to all of the conclusions life requires, so I sometimes accept unsupported beliefs. But, dammit, there are beliefs that are too ridiculous to accept, and religions have most of them.

 

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