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Started by I Pee Freely. Last reply by Unseen Oct 4, 2016.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". - Karl Marx
A beautiful summation of how I feel about religion.
“Listen to what is being preached today. Look at everyone around us. You've wondered why they suffer, why they seek happiness and never find it. If any man stopped and asked himself whether he's ever held a truly personal desire, he'd find the answer. He'd see that all his wishes, his efforts, his dreams, his ambitions are motivated by other men. He's not really struggling even for material wealth, but for the second-hander's delusion - prestige. A stamp of approval, not his own. He can find no joy in the struggle and no joy when he has succeeded. He can't say about a single thing: 'This is what I wanted because I wanted it, not because it made my neighbors gape at me'. Then he wonders why he's unhappy.” ― Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead
(I often write expecting theists will read it.)
Belief in God doesn't absolve youfrom learning science,helping to shape its future,and practicing critical thinking.
Science requires an open mind and courage,because it's about adjusting texts to newest evidence,and is NOT about eternally defending supposedly infallible dogma.
(Whoops, wrt the relevance of Transparency, I meant to add "speak your mind" in spite of beliefs forced upon you, albeit speak humbly.)
Today I woke up focused on Tolerance and Transparency, as if the lack of them might explain world problems.
Too many ideas already buzzing in my head at once, I recalled another meme I push, which is that "no belief system requiring itself to be forced onto others deserves credibility or respect". Trying to shorten this, I got:
I googled that phrase, and apparently, this post should become the first time that phrase has hit the internet. Strange, or... my one-ness with the universe (and/or Truth) isn't as profound right now as it feels. Anyway, coming back to the two Ts of Tolerance and Transparency, I add Truth.
My emphasis on Transparency is related to how best people can react to forceful beliefs systems... not by avoiding the debate or pure tolerance, but by being transparent about one's own beliefs. In fact, one should not only remain transparent, but occasionally skeptical of one's own beliefs.
To conservatives, the above must sound weak in character. After all, the goal is it "stay the course", as a matter of tradition, perhaps since the good ole' days always seem better than today. It's easier to expect populations to follow rules than it is to tolerate any dissent, or (at times) hints of dissent. Order/Security above Freedom/Tolerance.
I might be overestimating myself, but someday I think I'll write a good piece about Tolerance, Transparency, and "Truth", keeping those quotes in the title.
Someone more famous than I has probably expressed a thought I like, but I don't know her or his name.
I don't have the time to think my way to all of the conclusions life requires, so I sometimes accept unsupported beliefs. But, dammit, there are beliefs that are too ridiculous to accept, and religions have most of them.
Christians want me to accept god as my dad, i ask them for a paternity test and they blow stuff way out of proportion....... I don't have daddy issues but i think their god has kid issues; i just don't want nothing to do with that.
“I am not even an atheist so much as an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. Reviewing the false claims of religion I do not wish, as some sentimental materialists affect to wish, that they were true. I do not envy believers their faith. I am relieved to think that the whole story is a sinister fairy tale; life would be miserable if what the faithful affirmed was actually true.... There may be people who wish to live their lives under cradle-to-grave divine supervision, a permanent surveillance and monitoring. But I cannot imagine anything more horrible or grotesque.” Christopher Hitchens
“Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.” Christopher Hitchens
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