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This is Hell

Started by I Pee Freely. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck May 30, 2017. 2 Replies

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Comment by Matthew McGetrick on April 15, 2010 at 7:30pm
I read about an Eskimo hunter who asked the local missionary priest, "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?" "No", said the priest, "not if you did not know." "Then why," asked the Eskimo, "did you tell me?"
---Annie Dillard
Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on April 14, 2010 at 4:45pm
"One of the most valuable things about history is that it teaches us how things do not happen. It is precisely this kind of awareness that the paranoid fails to develop. He has a special resistance of his own, of course, to developing such awareness, but circumstances often deprive him of exposure to events that might enlighten him - and in any case, he resists enlightenment. We are all sufferers from history, but the paranoid is a double sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world, with the rest of us, but by his fantasies as well." - Richard Hofstadter
Comment by Skycomet the Fallen Angel on April 12, 2010 at 10:58pm
"Religious moderation is the product of secular knowledge and scriptural ignorance ... by failing to live by the letter of the texts [religious holy books], while tolerating the irrationality of those who do, religious moderates betray faith and reason equally." - Sam Harris - "The End of Faith"
Comment by DeSwiss on April 8, 2010 at 3:19am
"Christianity is like a crooked prosecutor that charges you with a crime you didn't commit." ~ Manifestor_of_Light

It is possible for individuals and even for whole cultures to care about the wrong things. Which is to say that it is possible for them to have beliefs and desires that reliably lead to needless human suffering. Just admitting this will transform our discourse about human morality. ~ Sam Harris, "Science Can Answer Moral Questions"

The main doctrine of a fanatic’s creed is that his enemies are the enemies of God. ~ Andrew White

REDEMPTION - n. Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sin, through their murder of the deity against whom they sinned. The doctrine of Redemption is the fundamental mystery of our holy religion, and whoso believeth in it shall not perish, but have everlasting life in which to try to understand it. ~ Ambrose Bierce

"Science is an attempt, largely successful, to understand the world, to get a grip on things, to get hold of ourselves, to steer a safe course. Microbiology and meteorology now explain what only a few centuries ago was considered sufficient cause to burn women to death." ~ Carl Sagan
Comment by Craig Duckett on March 28, 2010 at 10:33am
Is it really so difficult simply to accept what is considered truth in the circle of one's relatives and of many good men, and what, moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one's feeling and even one's conscience, proceeding often without any consolation...

Here the ways of men part: if you wish to strive for peace of soul and pleasure, then believe; if you wish to be a devotee of truth, then inquire.

— Friedrich Nietzsche, Letter to His Sister 1865
Comment by Doug Reardon on March 25, 2010 at 11:54am
Where is the world whose people don't prefer a comfortable, warm, and well-worn belief, however illogical, to the chilly winds of uncertainty?" - Asimov
Comment by David on March 21, 2010 at 7:11am
“We must be compelled to hold this doctrine to be false, and the old and new law called the Old and New Testament, to be impositions, fables and forgeries”
- Thomas Paine
Comment by DeSwiss on March 18, 2010 at 5:15pm
The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness. ~ Joseph Conrad

During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry. ~ Mark Twain, Europe and Elsewhere

You can cite a hundred references to show that the biblical God is a bloodthirsty tyrant, but if they can dig up two or three verses that say God is love, they will claim that you are taking things out of context! ~ Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith every religion the priest insists on five things -- First: There is a God. Second: He has made known his will. Third: He has selected me to explain this message. Fourth: We will now take up a collection; and Fifth: Those who fail to subscribe will certainly be damned. ~ Robert G. Ingersoll

Blasphemy laws should be abolished. It would be a strange God indeed, that required protection by the judicial system. ~ Salman Rushdie
Comment by David on March 18, 2010 at 3:20am
“Science can teach us, and I think our own hearts can teach us, no longer to look around for imaginary supports, no longer to invent allies in the sky, but rather to look to our own efforts here below to make this world a fit place to live in, instead” --
Bertrand Russell
Comment by Robert Bumbalough on March 17, 2010 at 1:45pm
Reality is casually deterministic. Nut jobs like Bertrand Russell while technically justified in not believing in a "God" were and are completely wrong in other areas. The opposite of purposeful divine creationism is not random chance or "muddle and accident", but instead, is Casualty. That which is, is what it is. A indeed does equal A. Things behave in accordance with their basal foundational natures: their identities. Consequently Material Existence is what it is because it can be no other way. In contrast are organic beings, such as Homo Sapiens, possessing volitional free will. We can configure our affairs and environment to suite our good pleasure. We act volitionally to achieve that which we desire. Reality acts deterministically in accordance with its identity. Russell and the fools who follow his folly play right into the home court of the religious loons who claim their "God" control or fabricate our destinies.

Ayn Rand wrote: "The law of identity does not permit you to have your cake and eat it, too. The law of causality does not permit you to eat your cake before you have it . . . . The law of causality is the law of identity applied to action. All actions are caused by entities. The nature of an action is caused and determined by the nature of the entities that act; a thing cannot act in contradiction to its nature."

But the fools who follow Russell want to have their cake and eat it too, so they deny the casualty and identity of Material Existence in order to have a pretext to deceive those who, like the religious lunatics, wish to evade responsibility for their own actions and lives. Forget Russell. Embarace Rand.

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