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What does it mean to be a feminist? What does it mean to be equal? What does it mean to be genuine? How do we fight for equal rights? How do we view ourselves as women in a world that at times seems completely against us?

Men: How do you fight for your ladies and pursue alongside equal rights. Human rights?

What does it really mean to be a feminist?

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I enabled my wife and daughters to get into careers, which seems to be working out for them. I'll always wish I could have done more, because I think civilization would be a lot better off with more women in charge. And better off with more women than men. Most people seem to think that our top heavy patriarchy is a cultural problem, and I agree. But I think it's largely caused by excess testosterone.

Nobody's fault. Nature didn't predict or compensate for gender power shifts enabled by newly (and artificially) evolving social structures. Testosterone won out because aggression actually paid off, albeit only at first. Now we're stuck with too much aggression, and on a global scale.

But don't let me take this off topic. I'd like to see some conventional ideas here, too.

That's a very interesting point of view--that testosterone fueled aggression is a selected trait that no longer helps the species due to cultural advancement. I wonder if later humans would be less aggressive and more cooperative?

On an unrelated note, I like to share that women's testosterone and androgen increase during menstruation if a man (or a woman, if she's being overtly sexist) asks me if it's that time of the month. Kinda blows the sexism right up in front of their faces.

IMHO, being a feminist simply means standing for gender equality. There are a lot of ways to do that...some good and some bad.

I think to "be equal" means to have the same civil and human rights, as well as equal access to opportunities.  

I don't really "fight" for equal rights as much as I stick up for what's right. I hope to get people to think differently. There are a number of ways to change things and some people find themselves more given to activism.

I struggle to view myself as a woman. I think of myself as a human, as a person. I don't think that's healthy or right, but I'm trying to work through it. Ideally, I could identify with my gender without sacrificing a feeling of personhood. I read a great book about this, Female Chauvinist Pigs, which really highlights this problem among my generation.

@Kairan: I'd like to develop this idea a little further:

I think to "be equal" means to have the same civil and human rights, as well as equal access to opportunities.  

This is a great start to our discussion. HOWEVER, I'm also interested in understanding the small, day to day, ho hum, practical ways that this plays out in a woman's life. And for those men here who are advocates for feminism, how does that play out in your life? 

I believe in affirmative action, so I'll give women and (beleaguered  minorities) more support, when I can, e.g. when considering who to hire.

There's probably a better phrase than affirmative action? What I'm describing can take place at a more personal, understated level, to compensate for the prejudice that has historically existed (and still exists) at personal and institutional levels (even if only subconsciously). Affirmative Opportunity?

Maybe "Empowerment" is the word?

Being a feminist just means that you believe the sexes should be equal.

If you want to destroy the patriarchy, you have to start from within. You have to remove the gender bias in your own brain as much as you can first. Some of that is in language - saying "police officer" instead of "policeman," for example. But it's much more than that. You have to recognize yourself that it's okay for men and women to express their gender in any way they want to. Being a man doesn't have to mean that you like sports and being a woman doesn't have to mean that you like shopping. It's okay if in a married relationship, the husband cooks and stays at home with the kids and the wife works.

I also get involved in pro-choice protesting. It really bothers me that women going in to get an abortion have to take so much crap from the right in an already impossible situation. The supposedly "pro-life" position is definitely anti-woman. Some pro-lifers would even prefer for a woman not to get an abortion if it means she will die without one! They're not respecting life. They're just trying to control women.

If you want to destroy the patriarchy, you have to start from within. You have to remove the gender bias in your own brain as much as you can first.

That's really well said futilethewinds...starting from within. How does one begin this process? is it a matter of simple language we tell ourselves or is there more to it? 

Ughhh I hate having to join groups just to answer a thread


Modern day feminists means not striving for equality, but rather a female dominated society. Feminists in the past used to strive for actual equality. But the modern day ones are all about how they can make men suffer. Their vision is to live in a society where for every 1 dollar a woman makes, the man should make 0.60 cents. So they can give men a taste of their own medicine and call it payback .

As a male I strive for true equal rights. If a man makes $1 doing a job, then the woman should make $1 for the same exact job. But if you can't do the job because of physical limitations, don't try to push for it and change the system. 

Well thanks for joining the thread Adam.I am glad you've added your insights. Why do you think there has been a change in the approach of some women? Why do you believe that modern day feminists are about making men suffer? What do you perceive to be the reason why? 

Have you ever been on tumblr? These feminazis are batshit crazy. One was talking about how they should put all men in castration camps (sounds familiar) ?

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