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Permalink Reply by Hope on May 2, 2011 at 2:29am

Awww, BadHandshakers very nice post from ya.

happy that you participated with us  long time no posts!!

 

 

I myself do not have the courage to come out.

But I told those whom are close to me that I have lil doubts. >in fact big doubts!

But when I met with an Arab atheist I  become delight to discuss everything about Atheism.

So, that's why you see me hanging around here.

 

also, I am a member of another site where Muslims and Christians hanging around there,

so, I hang out with and I tell them I am skeptical.. that's all what I can do.

 

on that same site I sent a private message to all my atheists friends and said "I'm an atheist, just like you but a I'm coward.

And a I'm coward because I once received  death threats from a muslim guy on the same site

... so, I need your support.

You will not believe if I told you that this muslim guy followed me in here...

but, TA mods helped me... thank you so much TA I love you.

Permalink Reply by Chris Green on May 2, 2011 at 7:34am

Not coming out as an Atheist does not make you a coward. Survival is everything and when people threaten your very existence because of what you believe, you have no choice to hide your real views.
I have no doubt in my mind as to who holds the moral high ground. I'm an Atheist but I don't threaten peoples lives because they want to believe in a god

Permalink Reply by Hope on May 2, 2011 at 10:45am

Thank you my dear =)

Permalink Reply by Chris Green on May 2, 2011 at 3:20pm

Only speaking the truth there. I know that I am very lucky to live in a democratic (well sometimes) society and one thing that breaks my heart is the oppression of young free thinkers in the Islamic world. 

I am not going to sit in judgement of Islam. I am of the opinion that the majority of Muslims are peace-loving individuals and so I think it is better to live and let live. The one thing that most individuals strive for in their lives is peace. Well, peace and freedom.

It certainly isn't a sin to strive for both of those things. I would like to think that I will see this achieved in my lifetime. 

Permalink Reply by Kemal on October 26, 2011 at 6:50pm

It's not really a matter of survival for us.  Your family and friends are unlikely to "turn you in" and even if they did, the last time anyone was punished for apostasy in Saudi Arabia was about 23 years ago and it's not clear that apostasy was the real reason behind it.  I actually have a young cousin who's come out.  It's more a matter of the stigma or you might not want to "shock" or upset your family.

 

Me, I just like to toy with people and keep them guessing while maintaining plausible deniability hehe :).

Permalink Reply by BadHandshakers on May 2, 2011 at 11:00am

Wow, that sounds devastating. I had a similar situation happen to me once on youtube, by a guy who claimed to be a hacker, who was first going to find out what my IP address was, and eventually, my home address, then post it on a Islam fanatic forum for them to come down and haunt me.

 

Though, he didn't seem to be able to get past getting blocked and reported, which rendered him down to, a fundamentalist capable of reciting passages from the Qur'an about the deserved death punishment of apostates.

 

Coming out in a country, where, I believe, requires about four witnesses upon hearing you denounce their religion, to issue you a death sentence, and in turn, leaving assassins jobless, makes it no longer a matter of courage, but not wanting to die in the name of Allah. Like Chris said below, you're not a coward, you just rather live, than be vocal about your genuine belief.

 

Even if sometimes I do get the suicidal fantasy of walking around with a shirt that says ATHEIST across the chest, in the hope of not having many people recognize the word around me, but for the time being... I'll stick to Mark Twain's "Sacred Cows Make the best hamburgers", cause everyone around here is just so sure that Hinduism is bat sh*t crazy, and their crazy sh*t is the holy word of God.

 

Thank you for your comment, and I'll make the best effort to shorten the time gabs between my posts, and make one on a more of a regular basis. =)  Cheers

Permalink Reply by Hope on May 2, 2011 at 1:02pm

Thanks for sharing my friend.

here are some tips for protecting your privacy and safety while online,

http://www.thinkatheist.com/group/exmuslimsupportgroup/forum/topics...

 

Cheers :)