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Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 2, 2013 at 3:36pm

As some of you may know, but likely many, not, Islamist countries have been trying for 8 or 9 years now to get a resolution passed by the UN, making criticism of any religion an international crime, so they can cross national boundries in pursuit of those who would "defame" Islam. It was voted down once, but they rewrote and renamed it and re-submitted it, and it is still pending. I used to have the name and number of it, but I no longer do.

If someone wanted to Google and publish information about it, all of us, regardless of country of origin, could contact our country's UN Representative and tell that person how we feel. At least that's a start.

With the beginning of the new year, I am playing catch-up with all of the things I put off for the holidays, and just don't have time at the moment, to hunt it down.

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 1, 2013 at 11:55am

First, let me say, Marvel, that I agree with you completely. But let me also try to explain how it is on this side of the coin. No matter how we might prefer it to be otherwise, the US and many other other countries are seen as "Christian" Nations, and even though we, personally, are atheists, as Americans, we are seen as part of that Nation, so when we protest against the spread of radical Islam, we are seen as the Crusades-old Christian versus Islam feud and written off as Islamiphobic. 

Also, because our history has been one of freedom of religion, we tend to feel we are going against that concept when we protest Islam.

I believe that the one thing we of the Western World CAN safely protest, without being ignored, are the ABUSES of Islam, rather than Islam itself. Once the abuses are ended, and people are allowed to reject the religion if they choose, allowed to criticize it without fear of retribution, girls - half your population - are freely allowed to pursue the education they choose and given equal rights with men, then Islam will die a slow death, like all religions have. In fact, that's what those who repress, fear most.

One way, and I don't know how it is possible, but maybe we could become a collective "think tank," and come up with some ideas, is economically - if there were a way to boycott products produced by a country that insists on a Sharia government, rather than a secular one, in which all are free to choose their own belief system, possibly they could be starved into submission (and I don't mean submission in the Islamic sense, but to the REAL god of the earth, economic stability).

I know it's difficult to believe that individuals can ever effect massive change, but here, in this country, we, through protest movements, broke the back of government-backed racial segregation laws, we forced the US government to pull out of Viet Nam - as a group, people can do a lot more than they would ever believe they can do.

Permalink Reply by Marvel on January 2, 2013 at 2:51pm

unfortunately most of the countries that supports sharia laws are failed states .. excluding Iran and Saudi Arabia as their economies depends mainly on the gas

Permalink Reply by Jesus Christ on December 31, 2012 at 8:53pm

Mohammed eats a big hairy pickle.

Permalink Reply by Pope OoO (Out of Order) on January 3, 2013 at 9:00am

Permalink Reply by Ray R. on December 31, 2012 at 11:58pm

Religions in general , and the monotheisms in particular , are reprehensible . The Islamic monotheism is particularly evil and vile . The overwhelming reason for this , is that it has yet to experience any sort of reformation and renaissance since its descent into the philosophical , cultural , and scientific dark ages way back in the eleventh century . The culture has not emerged to this day from their suicidal plunge into ignorance and madness . It should serve as a dire warning to our own civilization , and strengthen our resolve to fight against the theocratic maniacs with every fiber of our being .

Permalink Reply by Unseen on January 1, 2013 at 12:31am

And the ironic thing is, there was a time when the Arab Muslims, along with the Egyptians, Indians, and Mayans were among the leading civilizing forces on the planet. Way ahead of the Europeans.

Permalink Reply by Yahweh on January 1, 2013 at 10:57am

Meddling in people's affairs is a trait that are always found in those who are religious. The atheist stands by and let's them dig their own graves. 

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 1, 2013 at 12:19pm

Until they start digging ours.

Permalink Reply by Yahweh on January 2, 2013 at 10:12pm

I'm sure they'll be too deep into their graves before that happens at this rate. Of course there is going to be collateral damage. Accidents happen.

Permalink Reply by Reg The Fronkey Farmer on January 1, 2013 at 1:05pm

It is not Islam as a religion that is the problem but the fundamentalists that are using it as a political force. It has become so entwined with politics that it is difficult to tell them apart. This is especially true of Wahabi Sunnis especially in Saudi Arabia. Would I be correct in saying that?

Permalink Reply by archaeopteryx on January 1, 2013 at 1:33pm

Look at this insanity:

Gunmen kill 5 female teachers in Pakistan

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Gunmen in northwest Pakistan killed five teachers and two aid workers from a non-governmental organization Tuesday as they were driving home from work. The group's director said they may have been targeted for their anti-polio work.

Militants in the past have accused health workers of acting as spies for the U.S., alleging the vaccine is intended to make Muslim children sterile. Last month, nine people working on an anti-polio vaccination campaign were shot and killed. Four of those shootings were in the northwest where Tuesday's attack took place.

The attack was another reminder of the risks to women educators and aid workers from Islamic militants who oppose their work. It was in the same conservative province where militants shot and seriously wounded 15-year-old Malala Yousufzai, an outspoken young activist for girls' education, in October.

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