Do you guys/girls think "In God we trust" should be remove from U.S. money?

Granted, it's a cumbersome issue and it was added then (on paper money) to distinguish us from the "Godless Communist", but at this point isn't it a bit childish. Most Christians respond with "Oh, it's a good thing, it's what makes us number one", or "Why can't they just leave it like it is? I guess they have to cater to the will of the minority." America is not number 1 in a lot anymore, sure a couple things like war, but our education system is ranked fairly poorly especially compared to China, Japan, or Sweden, which have good education systems and are mostly atheists, but just because we're not number 1 doesn't mean we can't be, we just have to fix the problem. Also, I don't understand how they say it would be catering towards the "minority", all it's doing is making it neutral and "In God we Trust" was added to it, as it was never there originally, and it replaced e. Plurubus unum.

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I don't have a lot of optimism that it will be removed any time soon. This country is largely religious and what politician is going to vote to 'remove God from our money'? Once something like this gets voted in, it is almost impossible to get rid of. That is another reason why those of us who believe in separation of church and state must remain vigilant.

Re: Camel through the eye of a needle.  I read somewhere many years ago (pre-internet so no source link I'm afraid) that the camel referred to here was a coarse hessian-type thread that was used to sew sacks together, and would have been pretty hard, but not impossible, to thread through a needle.

I love this carving though....

The story I heard is that "the eye of the needle" was a particularly tight-squeeze of a gate into Jerusalem.  A camel could get through it if you unloaded it and it was willing to basically go through on its knees.

Minor nit:  IGWT did not replace E Pluribus Unum on our coins, both mottos appear.  I don't believe E Pluribus Unum was on our paper money before IGWT was added; it may never have been there at all.

If you ever want to know a shit-ton about the history of IGWT I've written about it here   (mostly on coins) (paper)

And finally to answer your question... I own the two cent piece pictured in the first blog entry I linked to above, and I commonly refer to it as "the abomination" as it's from the first year of the first denomination ever to carry the goddamn IGWT motto.  So that should indicate that:  Yes, I'd love to see it disappear.  I don't think it will though, short of a supreme court ruling or a huge change in our culture--atheists would have to have a strong majority here for a politician to be willing to piss off the Christians.

It kind of pisses me off, it violates the law, the first amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" they are just sucking up to the religious crowd (IMO). Let them be pissed, it's our turn and should never been theirs.

Hmm, be careful with saying "it's our turn and should never been theirs" because "our turn" could be construed as "hey now we get to put 'there is no god, shitheads!' on the money now" and I would oppose that as well.  Government should be silent on the subject.  But I agree that it should never have been their turn.

They WILL be pissed if and when it happens.  They got up in arms with their hair on fire over the presidential dollar apparently omitting the motto (it was stamped into the edge, sometimes poorly) so IGWT was moved to the face of the dollar, while E Pluribus Unum is still on the edge along with the date.  (Now that pisses me off.) 

The problem is as long as they are in the majority and will get this pissed off if we dare take their imaginary friend off the coins, no legislature that actually gets elected by popular vote will ever remove it.  Which means we have to hope the supreme court does it someday.

I didn't mean that we should change it to something else, my opinion by saying it's our turn is not to have anything written, just get rid of the "in god we trust" nonsense. Even if we accomplish it they may try to sneak it back on. IMO money should be just money and not a ad for religion. 

I do trust that god will continue to contribute to the lesser good. I was going to use more direct language. You can probably guess.

Absolutely - it is clearly government endorsement/approval of monotheism over polytheism and nontheism and, contrary to what our Christian theocratic lawmakers and Supreme Court justices think, a violation of the First Amendment.  I cross it off all my paper money and encourage everyone else to do the same.

"In god we trust" - why not "In no gods we trust" or "In many gods we trust"?  I think our founders would have preferred "In no gods we trust."

Personally, I think "In God We Trust" is idiotic, an embarrassment, and, ultimately, unconstitutional.

It is no different than "In an Imaginary Being We Trust."

I think it should be, 'In good money management we trust. Churches now pay their fair share of a 10% tithe.'

The "In God we trust" always reminded me as if it was some sort of reference to Goddess Fortuna who was often displayed on Roman coins.  It became a bit of a personal quip to me that Americans seem to have made their money their most revered god and fortune. For that reason alone I would remove the god reference off the dollar.

Also because it is in reference to that one singular deity I find that the phrase can be offensive to anyone of different or no faith. One God, One Country, One people is a near fascist credo in a multicultural country like the USA. Somehow I doubt however that many Americans will agree with me on this point however. None the less I do think most Christians at least tacitly subscribe to that notion.

Giving a privilege has always been easier then to take one away. I think the Christians have been over privileged for far too long as is. Taking their privilege away however will cause plenty of resistance, tantrums and crying about it.

For all intends and purposes the money should be neutral because of the nature in which it is used.


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