I'm Dreaming Of An Atheist Christmas


I'm Dreaming Of An Atheist Christmas

Who doesn't enjoy celebrating xmas, which happened to originate long before the christians claimed it? Share how you love to celebrate at this time of year. Recipes, decorations, crafts, ideas for gifts, winter tales, can be found here.

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Links from Many Feathers  


The Grinch isn't the only one who should be “green” this Giftmas....

The holiday season is here and whether you celebrate [insert holiday of choice here], or you don't, you will probably engage in some kind of gift giving of some sort. 


Here are some tips from two great websites on how you can have a wonderful holiday season with little to no impact on our wonderful planet...because well...she's all we got.






Merry Festivus for the rest of us,

Many Feathers aka Green Diva

Discussion Forum

Is santa a christian?

Started by gareth. Last reply by GOPI KANTA GHOSH Dec 8, 2011. 3 Replies

I have a toddler who will most certainly be getting presents from Daddy and Mommy. My guess is that Santa is not Christian, or is this incorrect when one considers St. Nick. Can anyone give me some…Continue


Started by Sydni Moser. Last reply by GOPI KANTA GHOSH Jan 4, 2011. 2 Replies

i do love baking cookies at this time of year, but am always in search of new recipes. Here is your chance to share YOUR favorite recipe and try out something new as well. Add one, add many, just…Continue

Got our tree! (let's see yours!)

Started by Laura Foster. Last reply by luvtheheaven Dec 20, 2010. 4 Replies

Just taking a minute to share boast that we got our tree yesterday.  For years, we've been using an artificial tree.  But now that we're living on 25 acres in rural Maine, himself (hubby) insisted on…Continue

Tags: photos, trees, Xmas, Christmas

Th' Night 'Fore Last: My "Christmas" Poem

Started by Matt Peters. Last reply by Jennifer Ulean Breedlove Dec 20, 2010. 1 Reply

I wrote this last year, but just remembered it today. Thought I'd share. Th' night b'fore last there were narry a sound.No critter was peepin', not even a hound.I don’t reckon much 'bout the daylight…Continue

Christmas gift for my 18 y/o Christian sister

Started by Matt Peters. Last reply by Matt Peters Dec 20, 2010. 7 Replies

During Thanksgiving weekend I was in the car with my Grandma, Mom, and Sister. We were talking about the whole North Korea/ South Korea war games thing. I said only half seriously something to the…Continue

Blasphemic Christmas Carols

Started by Skycomet the Fallen Angel. Last reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel Dec 16, 2010. 2 Replies

I've only got part 1... part 2 will come soon. These are for humor... although watch it! The xtians won't think it's funny. ;) …Continue

Your Favorite Holiday Traditions and What They Mean to You

Started by kris feenstra. Last reply by kris feenstra Dec 12, 2010. 10 Replies

Well, the title is pretty self-explanatory, but just for the sake of clarity, answer in the way that makes sense to you.  The tradition doesn't have to be uniquely atheist; it just has to be one that…Continue


Started by Sydni Moser Dec 5, 2010. 0 Replies

By Christopher HitchensDec. 3, 2007SLATEThe holiday celebrates the triumph of tribal Jewish backwardness. High on the list of idiotic commonplace…Continue

Santa Claus in Turkey

Started by Sydni Moser Dec 3, 2010. 0 Replies

by Ben DensinWhen I was first assigned to Turkey, I asked a Turkish friend if they had a "Santa Claus" in Turkey. He said, matter-of-factly, "yes. He was buried here."Santa Claus, or Saint Nicholas,…Continue

Christmas song branded 'sick joke'

Started by Sydni Moser. Last reply by Loop Johnny Dec 1, 2010. 4 Replies

Christians Slam Minchin for Aiding CharityReligious groups have lined up to slam Tim Minchin for his atheist Christmas song – after he donated it to a Christian charity.His track White Wine In The…Continue

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Comment by Sydni Moser on November 20, 2010 at 10:44pm
Thanks luvtheheaven for liking the group icon..
Comment by Cat on November 17, 2010 at 8:36pm
Comment by luvtheheaven on November 17, 2010 at 7:21pm
I just wanted to say I really love that purple tree picture you chose to represent the whole group, Sydni. :D
Comment by Jon Heim on November 17, 2010 at 7:18pm
are you guys ready for the war on Christmas that we apparently suit up for every year? lol
Comment by Jon Heim on November 17, 2010 at 4:50pm
No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?

The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.

In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.

In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.

Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.

The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.

In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.

Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”

The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.

Comment by Jon Heim on November 17, 2010 at 4:49pm
I celebrate the real reason for the season, and also the original pagan traditions. Lets face it...if we are going to celebrate anything, it's only fair to celebrate the beliefs that it originated from.

for me that's Yule and Saturnalia.
Comment by Todd on November 17, 2010 at 2:39pm
Years ago I worked for an overly zealous supervisor who insisted that everyone attend the Christmas party no matter their orientation. She suggested that attending the party would "allow you to get into the Christmas spirit". I wasn't feeling the love. I let her know I wasn't going to attend but would be happy to sit at the agency and attend to paperwork. She setup a meeting with the director of the facility and I found myself somehow compelled to remind them about whose birthday we're celebrating. I called a Jewish labor attorney (we're both jewish Atheists) who also let them know that you can't force someone to attend a religious celebration. That same year I ran into a clerk at Fred Meyer who also wished the same for me. I let him know that I didn't celebrate Christmas but he reminded me that Christmas is the most important holiday in the world. Some people are slow learners.

If the Christian folk are so happy to share religious cards, then I'm thinking I'd like to develop a line of cards with the savior sitting in an electric chair.

I like the line from Seinfeld: festivus for the rest of us''
Comment by Peter Karp on November 17, 2010 at 1:28pm
I just joined a couple of hours ago. 'Bout time I guess lol.
Comment by luvtheheaven on November 17, 2010 at 11:58am
Hey cool Peter, I didn't realize you'd made a Think Atheist account lol. ;) (Peter is my brother.)
Comment by Peter Karp on November 17, 2010 at 11:50am
I love this! Though I remember hearing that this holiday originated as a pagan celebration, I totally forgot!! lol

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