Atheists for REAL education everywhere


Atheists for REAL education everywhere

He who opens a school door, closes a prison.
~Victor Hugo ~

This group is for all Atheists/Agnostic/Secular Humanists/Pastafarians....and anyone else who is a rational freethinker who cares about education for our children - for our future, and for the state of world education everywhere. For freethinkers who want to actively get involved in leveraging support from one another to make a difference in their OWN communities, states, and countries, to ensure that our children learn well and are able to be tomorrow's leaders. It is perhaps the ONLY way that our world can ever find peace. Education is the answer!

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The Disappearing Science Teacher

Started by Belle Rose. Last reply by Reg The Fronkey Farmer Nov 24, 2013. 1 Reply

I am preparing my son for kindergarden. Through conversation recently with another parent I found out that many elementary schools do not have a science teacher! Thinking back to my own elementary…Continue

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Comment by Dennis Goos on October 16, 2013 at 2:38am

We are winning! The internet is having a big impact according to apologist  Josh McDowell. Sites like this and free debate is educating believers.

Comment by Dennis Goos on October 16, 2013 at 2:34am


I drank a lot at U. Now I don't drink, I don't smoke, I take only non-recreational drugs and I don't chase women for fear of falling.That isn't my view of 'better'.

You get out what you put in so you have to put it all in !

Comment by Cesar Deicide on October 16, 2013 at 1:22am

@Dennis Goos

It still is, the main difference i no longer have that much free time. Between work, college and girlfriend the only free time i have i feel compelled to do something fun just to relaxed a little.

I miss spending my afternoons watching Discovery Channel (RIP) and National Geographic (RIP), a TED Talk, science news and even debating.

Does it get better?

Comment by Dennis Goos on October 15, 2013 at 7:15pm

@Cesar Deicide

I am so sympathetic with your comment as it applies to adults on the internet. Learning is just too demanding.

But remember your childhood? Then learning was a joy. Even learning about girls!

Comment by Cesar Deicide on October 15, 2013 at 9:53am

@Dennis My take is that it is cause by the modern fallacy that "Natural is better" while being completely ignorant that GMO are not that different from what we have being doing for the last 10,000 years or more, but faster and better.

That idea has advance to ridiculous extents without any clue about the ridiculousness of the idea. I've listen "We shouldn't drink tea, boiling herbs release the poison in it" but coffee? That's okay. "What kills a person in chemotherapy is the chemotherapy, drink honey with soda to reduce the symptoms". "If we all eat natural (meaning wild) food, all of us would live long and healthy".

Learning is too much of an effort to some people.

Comment by Dennis Goos on October 15, 2013 at 12:56am

I live in British Columbia. I looked through the Provincial School Curriculum. A student may opt to learn about evolution the eleventh year of schooling. How can children learn the truth if no one teaches it?

Comment by Dennis Goos on October 15, 2013 at 12:53am

Last week our local newspaper proudly feature a child, a girl guide, advocating against the sale of Girl Guide cookies because there might be GMO products in  the manufacture of those cookies. Later, I listened to Patrick Watson, a founder of Greenpeace, pleading for Greenpeace to stop its campaign against "Golden Rice" a gmo rice that can prevent the deaths of millions of children whose diet is white rice and deficient in Vitamin A. Of course, I weep  for the children who will die for lack of Vitamin A that would be safely provided by Golden Rice. But what of the protesting child? I weep for her as well. Did the schools not give her any help scientific thinking nor moral responsibility? Does science now teach that, in spite of all diligent due process, some development might be wrong in the future? If gmo is bad because it isn't absolutely proven, then atheism for the same reason. And people, children, die for both beliefs.


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