Atheist Morality

The purpose of this group is to discuss morality from all points of view: biological, evolutionary, philosophical. Specific moral questions are also encouraged: if you have a moral question for us atheists, feel free to post it here.

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Where did morality come from?

We atheists are pretty tired of hearing that without religion, there would be no morality. It is offensive to us atheists, since this implies we cannot possibly be moral, or if we are in fact, moral, it is because we were raised in a culture in which morality was initially acquired, and still perpetuated, by religion.


While it is indeed possible that some people may need religion in order to be moral, this is a scary thought: their morality has not been reasoned or felt in their gut, it was ordered from above.


Human beings have had moral laws and codes for thousands and thousands of years before religion was ever invented, at least in an organized form.  Human beings around the globe, from many religious backgrounds, have pretty much the same basic set of rules, starting with the Golden Rule. Why? Because our moral sense comes from the evolution of our brains and the need to live as a social species, avoiding conflict and increasing cooperation.  Our moral sense is based on our emotions: it feels good to help others, and it feels bad to harm others.


The scientific study of human nature has naturally lead to the scientific study of human morality. A good start if you're new to this fascinating and important subject is The New Science of Morality, from


The Video Thread
The Reading List
The Moral Repository
Exercises in Moral Dilemmas


These are academic tests designed to probe our moral sense, moral cognition, and what drives our moral decisions and judgments. They are fun, they will tell you a lot about yourself, and you'll be helping researchers add to their current data. (Jonathan Haidt's group and collaborators)
The Moral Sense Test (Joshua Greene-Harvard University)


Discussion Forum

All Morality is Relative

Started by Andrew Brown. Last reply by Simon Paynton May 12, 2017. 50 Replies

Einstein proved everything is relative.Morality must also be relative, but relative to what?I argue our morality is obviously relative to Humans, thus all moral arguments we are able to judge must…Continue

Tags: peace, harm, path, nature, humans

Violating morals! what do you think?!

Started by Hope. Last reply by destitute Jan 16, 2017. 14 Replies

A sexual revolution in the Middle East... Cool but, Islamists dont like that!Anther updates from the religion of peace! what do you think?!This time it's about a teenager atheist girl who needs to…Continue

Tags: do, you, think?!, what, morals!


Started by Richard W. Symonds. Last reply by Rodrigo Paris Aug 14, 2016. 29 Replies

Noam Chomsky's atheist morality makes more sense to me than the atheist non-sense of 'Richard Dawkins & his Merrie Men'  …Continue

Atheism, evolution and morality

Started by Anthony Blair. Last reply by Unseen Jul 18, 2016. 23 Replies

According to evolution science, all life on earth started as a bunch of molecules that accidentally coalesced in a lifeless puddle of mud to form a complex little biological machine that we call a…Continue

Questions to Video Gamers

Started by T A A. Last reply by Belle Rose Jul 17, 2016. 97 Replies

Nearly all my life, video gaming has been an attractive pastime. My grandparents bought that ridiculous "ping" (probably wrong name) game for the old B/W television set in their living room and all…Continue

The Immorality of Prayers

Started by Jacob LeMaster. Last reply by C. Boyd Pfeiffer Mar 7, 2016. 11 Replies

Here is an example that was very personal to me..My grandmother was very ill due to a bad blood transfusion after giving birth to my uncle around 40 years ago..   Being in the bible belt the most…Continue

Tags: health, Prayer, Morality

no such thing as altruism?

Started by Wassabi. Last reply by Unseen Dec 22, 2015. 36 Replies

I recently read an article about altruism (not In English or I'd link), which stated there is actually no such thing.While humans do not have ability to relay tangible things to each other by means…Continue

No afterlife, no morals?

Started by John Garbutt. Last reply by Simon Paynton Dec 17, 2015. 5 Replies

Alright, so first of all I'm taking Theology & Religious Studies at university.  A lot of people find this pretty strange for an atheist, but I'm fascinated by mythology, by superstition and by…Continue

So What About Quasi Realism?

Started by Albert Bakker. Last reply by Albert Bakker Feb 24, 2011. 18 Replies

In making a first small foray into Quasi Realism, I would like first to go back here to the very basics.Lets for a moment forget about the correct chronological order and the whole network of nested…Continue

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Comment by T A A on January 25, 2011 at 5:40pm
Quebec has only recently opened up Sundays to full blown capitalism. I disagreed with it. I think it was one aspect of religion that made total sense to have one day off a week, guaranteed. Our society has been diminished by placing commerce before happiness seven days a week.
Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 12:05pm
Of course not Jaume - I am simply saying one idea/theory/belief/hypothesis will correspond with the truth (or reality) more than another - and faith & trust is involved in this process.
Comment by Jaume on January 20, 2011 at 11:57am
Then I can only conclude that expressions like 'corroborated by facts' or 'the need for evidence' are meaningless to you.
Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 11:46am
Jaume, the words "faith" & "trust" mean much the same to me - interchangeable.
Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 11:19am
"Faith in nothing is not valid, Richard, it is just silly"

Let's take that statement from you doone, to illustrate
what I am trying to say :

You cannot know, with 100% certainty, that your statement
is correct. 

It might correspond with the truth more than someone
else's opinion - but that's all you can say. 

Comment by Jaume on January 20, 2011 at 11:17am

A dangerous illusion? I beg to disagree. 'Believing' is necessary to us, or we would waste our time trying to 'prove' everything that's been 'proven' countless times before. Generalized absolute skepticism would be much worse than relying on 'belief'.

What you missed is there are two ways to believe: faith and trust. The latter is corroborated by evidence (the more I eat omelettes, the more I believe the best way to cook one is to break some eggs first), while the former is not.

Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 11:05am

That "epidemic of certainty" can afflict both Theists & Atheists alike - and that "feeling of knowing", to my mind, is a dangerous illusion.


Nobody knows anything with 100% certainty - scientists & non-scientists alike - because we are fallible human beings, with fallible brains. Cocksureness is a function of human ignorance


Essentially, life is a matter of faith - whatever you believe in (or don't believe In). 

Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 10:19am
"If we can deny our own stubborn human nature, we can block out any information that contradicts what the author Tamim Ansary calls "the fruitless longing for transcendence" that drives much delusion".

I find it a constant source of fascination and amusement to read the lengths to which people will go to try & 'explain away' - in great detail - their belief (faith?) in the non-existence of a 'transcendent' reality.

There's something obsessively pathological about it - rather strange and unhealthy sometimes, it seems to me.
Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 19, 2011 at 4:24am
Thought this might be of interest - not sure where to post it though :
Comment by justin gold on January 17, 2011 at 12:34pm
I'm so Sorry Don,That was ment for Herk not mistake.

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