Atheist Morality

The purpose of this group is to discuss morality from all points of view: biological, evolutionary, philosophical. Specific moral questions are also encouraged: if you have a moral question for us atheists, feel free to post it here.

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Latest Activity: Aug 6, 2014

Where did morality come from?

We atheists are pretty tired of hearing that without religion, there would be no morality. It is offensive to us atheists, since this implies we cannot possibly be moral, or if we are in fact, moral, it is because we were raised in a culture in which morality was initially acquired, and still perpetuated, by religion.


While it is indeed possible that some people may need religion in order to be moral, this is a scary thought: their morality has not been reasoned or felt in their gut, it was ordered from above.


Human beings have had moral laws and codes for thousands and thousands of years before religion was ever invented, at least in an organized form.  Human beings around the globe, from many religious backgrounds, have pretty much the same basic set of rules, starting with the Golden Rule. Why? Because our moral sense comes from the evolution of our brains and the need to live as a social species, avoiding conflict and increasing cooperation.  Our moral sense is based on our emotions: it feels good to help others, and it feels bad to harm others.


The scientific study of human nature has naturally lead to the scientific study of human morality. A good start if you're new to this fascinating and important subject is The New Science of Morality, from


The Video Thread
The Reading List
The Moral Repository
Exercises in Moral Dilemmas


These are academic tests designed to probe our moral sense, moral cognition, and what drives our moral decisions and judgments. They are fun, they will tell you a lot about yourself, and you'll be helping researchers add to their current data. (Jonathan Haidt's group and collaborators)
The Moral Sense Test (Joshua Greene-Harvard University)


Discussion Forum


Started by Richard W. Symonds. Last reply by H3xx Sep 8, 2013. 27 Replies

Noam Chomsky's atheist morality makes more sense to me than the atheist non-sense of 'Richard Dawkins & his Merrie Men'  …Continue

no such thing as altruism?

Started by Wassabi. Last reply by Brian Daurelle Sep 7, 2013. 33 Replies

I recently read an article about altruism (not In English or I'd link), which stated there is actually no such thing.While humans do not have ability to relay tangible things to each other by means…Continue

Violating morals! what do you think?!

Started by Hope. Last reply by Hope Nov 27, 2011. 13 Replies

A sexual revolution in the Middle East... Cool but, Islamists dont like that!Anther updates from the religion of peace! what do you think?!This time it's about a teenager atheist girl who needs to…Continue

Tags: do, you, think?!, what, morals!

The Immorality of Prayers

Started by Jacob LeMaster. Last reply by fester60613 Mar 2, 2011. 10 Replies

Here is an example that was very personal to me..My grandmother was very ill due to a bad blood transfusion after giving birth to my uncle around 40 years ago..   Being in the bible belt the most…Continue

Tags: health, Prayer, Morality

So What About Quasi Realism?

Started by Albert Bakker. Last reply by Albert Bakker Feb 24, 2011. 18 Replies

In making a first small foray into Quasi Realism, I would like first to go back here to the very basics.Lets for a moment forget about the correct chronological order and the whole network of nested…Continue

Moral Contextualism

Started by Jaume. Last reply by A Former Member Feb 22, 2011. 37 Replies

Ow. It's not that easy to present an in-depth analysis or synthesis of Moral Contextualism (MC for short), when it is a fairly recent development of moral philosophy, and the relevant online…Continue

Tags: Adriana is a tyrant, contextualism, epistemology, morality, Moral Contextualism

Questions to Video Gamers

Started by T A A. Last reply by T A A Feb 22, 2011. 94 Replies

Nearly all my life, video gaming has been an attractive pastime. My grandparents bought that ridiculous "ping" (probably wrong name) game for the old B/W television set in their living room and all…Continue

Use of Force Against those Threatening Violence

Started by Ryan E. Hoffman. Last reply by No name Feb 21, 2011. 22 Replies

This whole Operation Rescue thing done by Rachel Maddow, in addition to the Justifiable Homicide in South Dakota for killing people that would do harm to a fetus aka Abortion Doctors... it's really…Continue

Tags: islam, terrorism, abortion, politics, force

No afterlife, no morals?

Started by John Garbutt. Last reply by T A A Feb 1, 2011. 3 Replies

Alright, so first of all I'm taking Theology & Religious Studies at university.  A lot of people find this pretty strange for an atheist, but I'm fascinated by mythology, by superstition and by…Continue

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Comment by Jaume on February 25, 2011 at 8:06am
Found in the WP: "Irony of ironies: People who don't believe in evolution are the most avid advocates for Social Darwinism." - Tom Toles
Comment by Jaume on February 22, 2011 at 8:11am
Bonobos are also more talkative and introspective. I never had an interesting philosophical conversation with chimps, but about Nietzsche. You'd better not tell them they're 'sub sapiens' - they actually think they're Überaffen and would take offense.
Comment by Chris G on February 21, 2011 at 11:35pm
- just for conversation:

The Chimpanzee isn't the only sub sapien.
The Bonobo is a kinder unstudied genus.
Comment by T A A on February 21, 2011 at 6:34pm

sorry :)

LoL my intent was really to keep it focused on ethics revealed by gamer motivation as opposed to the impact of games on society, whole other debate!

Comment by T A A on February 21, 2011 at 10:08am
Saddly, I agree :(
Comment by Jaume on February 21, 2011 at 9:37am

Why should we care about Kant?


Short answer: we shouldn't, because abstract reasoning is useless. Brute force, that's what drives the world.

Or in other words: because Immanuel Kant, but Genghis Khan.

Comment by Don on February 20, 2011 at 1:44pm

Jerry Coyne (author of WHY EVOLUTION IS TRUE) is one who remains convinced that Obama is a closeted atheist, partly because of allusions to nonbelief he has made in his books and partly because, as others suggest, he would not have gotten far in politics if he had not declared himself a Christian. 

See this:

Pete Stark may be the only out atheist in Congress, but Bernie Sanders, the junior senator from my own state (the country's least religious state), Vermont, is known to be a secular humanist--though he would not invite distracting condemnation by commenting publicly on his beliefs. 

Comment by Jaume on February 16, 2011 at 10:48pm
It's not that big a concern in my neck of the woods, where secularism is a given, and politicians keep their religious feelings private - when they're religious at all. Guess I'm lucky.
Comment by Herk on February 16, 2011 at 10:31pm
That's easy. Crippling religion so that those who can think can run the world. If we have intelligent people at the helm we can't help but improve things. That means promoting atheism and secularism and stonewalling efforts like the latest bill in SD to make it legal to kill abortion doctors. How crazy is that?
Comment by Jaume on February 16, 2011 at 10:15pm

With so many members, I think time is ripe for a big poll. What is, according to you, the biggest moral challenge of our times?


I'd cast my vote to reforming the socio-economical model we chose post-WW2: consumerism; mass advertising; planned obsolescence; spending more than we own; turning oceans and third-world countries into waste dumps; and the absurd belief that a finite world is compatible with ever-increasing, infinite growth. Do we want our children to inherit a dilapidated planet?


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