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Atheist Morality

The purpose of this group is to discuss morality from all points of view: biological, evolutionary, philosophical. Specific moral questions are also encouraged: if you have a moral question for us atheists, feel free to post it here.

Website: http://www.thinkatheist.com/group/atheistmorality
Location: A Planet Near and Dear
Members: 209
Latest Activity: Aug 6

Where did morality come from?

We atheists are pretty tired of hearing that without religion, there would be no morality. It is offensive to us atheists, since this implies we cannot possibly be moral, or if we are in fact, moral, it is because we were raised in a culture in which morality was initially acquired, and still perpetuated, by religion.

 

While it is indeed possible that some people may need religion in order to be moral, this is a scary thought: their morality has not been reasoned or felt in their gut, it was ordered from above.

 

Human beings have had moral laws and codes for thousands and thousands of years before religion was ever invented, at least in an organized form.  Human beings around the globe, from many religious backgrounds, have pretty much the same basic set of rules, starting with the Golden Rule. Why? Because our moral sense comes from the evolution of our brains and the need to live as a social species, avoiding conflict and increasing cooperation.  Our moral sense is based on our emotions: it feels good to help others, and it feels bad to harm others.

 

The scientific study of human nature has naturally lead to the scientific study of human morality. A good start if you're new to this fascinating and important subject is The New Science of Morality, from Edge.org.

  

ONGOING DISCUSSIONS
The Video Thread
The Reading List
The Moral Repository
Exercises in Moral Dilemmas


ONLINE TESTS

These are academic tests designed to probe our moral sense, moral cognition, and what drives our moral decisions and judgments. They are fun, they will tell you a lot about yourself, and you'll be helping researchers add to their current data.

YourMorals.org (Jonathan Haidt's group and collaborators)
The Moral Sense Test (Joshua Greene-Harvard University)

 

Discussion Forum

IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ENLIGHTENED MORAL ATHEIST, LET NOAM CHOMSKY BE YOUR INSPIRATION - NOT RICHARD DAWKINS

Started by Richard W. Symonds. Last reply by H3xx Sep 8, 2013. 27 Replies

Noam Chomsky's atheist morality makes more sense to me than the atheist non-sense of 'Richard Dawkins & his Merrie Men'  …Continue

no such thing as altruism?

Started by Wassabi. Last reply by Brian Daurelle Sep 7, 2013. 33 Replies

I recently read an article about altruism (not In English or I'd link), which stated there is actually no such thing.While humans do not have ability to relay tangible things to each other by means…Continue

Violating morals! what do you think?!

Started by Hope. Last reply by Hope Nov 27, 2011. 13 Replies

A sexual revolution in the Middle East... Cool but, Islamists dont like that!Anther updates from the religion of peace! what do you think?!This time it's about a teenager atheist girl who needs to…Continue

Tags: do, you, think?!, what, morals!

The Immorality of Prayers

Started by Jacob LeMaster. Last reply by fester60613 Mar 2, 2011. 10 Replies

Here is an example that was very personal to me..My grandmother was very ill due to a bad blood transfusion after giving birth to my uncle around 40 years ago..   Being in the bible belt the most…Continue

Tags: health, Prayer, Morality

So What About Quasi Realism?

Started by Albert Bakker. Last reply by Albert Bakker Feb 24, 2011. 18 Replies

In making a first small foray into Quasi Realism, I would like first to go back here to the very basics.Lets for a moment forget about the correct chronological order and the whole network of nested…Continue

Moral Contextualism

Started by Jaume. Last reply by A Former Member Feb 22, 2011. 37 Replies

Ow. It's not that easy to present an in-depth analysis or synthesis of Moral Contextualism (MC for short), when it is a fairly recent development of moral philosophy, and the relevant online…Continue

Tags: Adriana is a tyrant, contextualism, epistemology, morality, Moral Contextualism

Questions to Video Gamers

Started by T A A. Last reply by T A A Feb 22, 2011. 94 Replies

Nearly all my life, video gaming has been an attractive pastime. My grandparents bought that ridiculous "ping" (probably wrong name) game for the old B/W television set in their living room and all…Continue

Use of Force Against those Threatening Violence

Started by Ryan E. Hoffman. Last reply by No name Feb 21, 2011. 22 Replies

This whole Operation Rescue thing done by Rachel Maddow, in addition to the Justifiable Homicide in South Dakota for killing people that would do harm to a fetus aka Abortion Doctors... it's really…Continue

Tags: islam, terrorism, abortion, politics, force

No afterlife, no morals?

Started by John Garbutt. Last reply by T A A Feb 1, 2011. 3 Replies

Alright, so first of all I'm taking Theology & Religious Studies at university.  A lot of people find this pretty strange for an atheist, but I'm fascinated by mythology, by superstition and by…Continue

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Comment by Jaume on February 16, 2011 at 10:15pm

With so many members, I think time is ripe for a big poll. What is, according to you, the biggest moral challenge of our times?

 

I'd cast my vote to reforming the socio-economical model we chose post-WW2: consumerism; mass advertising; planned obsolescence; spending more than we own; turning oceans and third-world countries into waste dumps; and the absurd belief that a finite world is compatible with ever-increasing, infinite growth. Do we want our children to inherit a dilapidated planet?

Comment by T A A on February 1, 2011 at 5:15am
Oh how I miss my 80s OMNI subscription! so much fun :)
Comment by Jaume on January 31, 2011 at 10:39pm

Crapping or not crapping is not a moral issue.

I'm not so sure we don't subconsciously attach moral 'values' to the byproducts of our physiology. Read this short story, and then try to figure out, say, Kirk and Spock's reaction to their discovery of a new sentient species made out of fecal matter.

"They're made out of shit..."

Comment by T A A on January 31, 2011 at 6:22pm
Defecation is the author's satirical rebuttal to the 'naturalistic fallacy'.
Comment by T A A on January 30, 2011 at 8:38pm

What happens when people try to distance themselves from biological realities in the name of PC and enlightened morality:

Satire from Southland Tales:

DE: The dude hasn't taken a shit in a week.
VM: When has it even been in the Bible that you have to have a bowel movement? It's not written anywhere.
DE: It's not written in the Bible, but some things is written, like, in mother nature. All of the animals shit. Cows shit, llamas shit.
VM: Do they like it? Do they want it? If they had a voice would they, would they rather not?
DE: I think they feel better after they take a shit. I think they do like it. My answer is yes.
VM: My answer is no!

Comment by Morgan Matthew on January 26, 2011 at 10:08am
I double featured the group :]
Comment by T A A on January 25, 2011 at 5:40pm
Quebec has only recently opened up Sundays to full blown capitalism. I disagreed with it. I think it was one aspect of religion that made total sense to have one day off a week, guaranteed. Our society has been diminished by placing commerce before happiness seven days a week.
Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 12:05pm
Of course not Jaume - I am simply saying one idea/theory/belief/hypothesis will correspond with the truth (or reality) more than another - and faith & trust is involved in this process.
Comment by Jaume on January 20, 2011 at 11:57am
Then I can only conclude that expressions like 'corroborated by facts' or 'the need for evidence' are meaningless to you.
Comment by Richard W. Symonds on January 20, 2011 at 11:46am
Jaume, the words "faith" & "trust" mean much the same to me - interchangeable.
 

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