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Atheist Morality

The purpose of this group is to discuss morality from all points of view: biological, evolutionary, philosophical. Specific moral questions are also encouraged: if you have a moral question for us atheists, feel free to post it here.

Website: http://www.thinkatheist.com/group/atheistmorality
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Latest Activity: May 13

Where did morality come from?

We atheists are pretty tired of hearing that without religion, there would be no morality. It is offensive to us atheists, since this implies we cannot possibly be moral, or if we are in fact, moral, it is because we were raised in a culture in which morality was initially acquired, and still perpetuated, by religion.

 

While it is indeed possible that some people may need religion in order to be moral, this is a scary thought: their morality has not been reasoned or felt in their gut, it was ordered from above.

 

Human beings have had moral laws and codes for thousands and thousands of years before religion was ever invented, at least in an organized form.  Human beings around the globe, from many religious backgrounds, have pretty much the same basic set of rules, starting with the Golden Rule. Why? Because our moral sense comes from the evolution of our brains and the need to live as a social species, avoiding conflict and increasing cooperation.  Our moral sense is based on our emotions: it feels good to help others, and it feels bad to harm others.

 

The scientific study of human nature has naturally lead to the scientific study of human morality. A good start if you're new to this fascinating and important subject is The New Science of Morality, from Edge.org.

  

ONGOING DISCUSSIONS
The Video Thread
The Reading List
The Moral Repository
Exercises in Moral Dilemmas


ONLINE TESTS

These are academic tests designed to probe our moral sense, moral cognition, and what drives our moral decisions and judgments. They are fun, they will tell you a lot about yourself, and you'll be helping researchers add to their current data.

YourMorals.org (Jonathan Haidt's group and collaborators)
The Moral Sense Test (Joshua Greene-Harvard University)

 

Discussion Forum

Frans de Waal's Bottom-Up Morality: We're Not Good Because Of God

Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Apr 22. 26 Replies

In a book coming out next week called The Bonobo and the…Continue

Tags: morality, primates, sympathy, evolution, empathy

Why a lack of empathy is the root of all evil

Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Apr 7, 2012. 8 Replies

Why a lack of empathy is the root of all evil From casual violence to genocide, acts of cruelty can be traced back to how the perpetrator identifies with other people, argues psychologist Simon…Continue

Tags: psychopathology, cruelty, violence, evil, testosterone

Violating morals! what do you think?!

Started by Hope. Last reply by Hope Nov 27, 2011. 13 Replies

A sexual revolution in the Middle East... Cool but, Islamists dont like that!Anther updates from the religion of peace! what do you think?!This time it's about a teenager atheist girl who needs to…Continue

Tags: do, you, think?!, what, morals!

Does Pinker’s “Better Angels” Undermine Religious Morality?

Started by Dallas the Phallus Nov 7, 2011. 0 Replies

Fairly decent blog post. Just copying a few select paragraphs below.…Continue

Tags: religion, morality, violence

The Moral Repository

Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Dallas the Phallus Oct 25, 2011. 66 Replies

I thought it might be kind of nice to have a thread where we can just add all the great stuff that we find which may not merit its own thread.This thread can be used to add:·         Relevant…Continue

Tags: meta-ethics, glossary, reports, studies, research

Why Is There Peace?, by Stephen Pinker

Started by Dallas the Phallus Sep 19, 2011. 0 Replies

Another great essay by Stephen Pinker.   - Dallas Why Is There Peace?Over the past century, violent images from World War II concentration camps, Cambodia, Rwanda, Darfur, Iraq, and many other times…Continue

Tags: human nature, torture, homicide, violence, history

Empathy and the Origins of Cruelty

Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Richard W. Symonds Sep 13, 2011. 1 Reply

Empathy and the Origins of Cruelty How important is our brain’s empathy circuit and what happens to society when it doesn’t work properly? We’ll find out this hour with University of Cambridge…Continue

Tags: THINK, science, NPR, autism, psychopaths

Exercises in Moral Dilemmas

Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Unseen Sep 7, 2011. 6 Replies

This is a thread for moral dilemmas (a part of applied ethics), feel free to post your favorite moral dilemma, real of made up, and what you would do and why. If you don't have anything to add right…Continue

Tags: applied ethics, moral dilemmas, morality, ethics

If It Feels Good to Be Good, It Might Be Only Natural

Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by T A A Sep 7, 2011. 3 Replies

From 2007. Nothing really new to this group, though. I like the moral dilemma Greene poses on page two. That one has not come up here before.  - Dallas If It Feels Good to Be Good, It Might Be Only…Continue

Tags: paleocortex, right and wrong, reward system, morals, science

IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ENLIGHTENED MORAL ATHEIST, LET NOAM CHOMSKY BE YOUR INSPIRATION - NOT RICHARD DAWKINS

Started by Richard W. Symonds. Last reply by Richard W. Symonds Jul 29, 2011. 8 Replies

Noam Chomsky's atheist morality makes more sense to me than the atheist non-sense of 'Richard Dawkins & his Merrie Men'  …Continue

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Comment by Chris G on February 21, 2011 at 11:35pm
- just for conversation:

The Chimpanzee isn't the only sub sapien.
The Bonobo is a kinder unstudied genus.
Comment by T A A on February 21, 2011 at 6:34pm

sorry :)

LoL my intent was really to keep it focused on ethics revealed by gamer motivation as opposed to the impact of games on society, whole other debate!

Comment by T A A on February 21, 2011 at 10:08am
Saddly, I agree :(
Comment by Jaume on February 21, 2011 at 9:37am

Why should we care about Kant?

 

Short answer: we shouldn't, because abstract reasoning is useless. Brute force, that's what drives the world.

Or in other words: because Immanuel Kant, but Genghis Khan.

Comment by Don on February 20, 2011 at 1:44pm

Jerry Coyne (author of WHY EVOLUTION IS TRUE) is one who remains convinced that Obama is a closeted atheist, partly because of allusions to nonbelief he has made in his books and partly because, as others suggest, he would not have gotten far in politics if he had not declared himself a Christian. 

See this:  http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/02/13/obama-is-still-a...

Pete Stark may be the only out atheist in Congress, but Bernie Sanders, the junior senator from my own state (the country's least religious state), Vermont, is known to be a secular humanist--though he would not invite distracting condemnation by commenting publicly on his beliefs. 

Comment by Jaume on February 16, 2011 at 10:48pm
It's not that big a concern in my neck of the woods, where secularism is a given, and politicians keep their religious feelings private - when they're religious at all. Guess I'm lucky.
Comment by Herk on February 16, 2011 at 10:31pm
That's easy. Crippling religion so that those who can think can run the world. If we have intelligent people at the helm we can't help but improve things. That means promoting atheism and secularism and stonewalling efforts like the latest bill in SD to make it legal to kill abortion doctors. How crazy is that?
Comment by Jaume on February 16, 2011 at 10:15pm

With so many members, I think time is ripe for a big poll. What is, according to you, the biggest moral challenge of our times?

 

I'd cast my vote to reforming the socio-economical model we chose post-WW2: consumerism; mass advertising; planned obsolescence; spending more than we own; turning oceans and third-world countries into waste dumps; and the absurd belief that a finite world is compatible with ever-increasing, infinite growth. Do we want our children to inherit a dilapidated planet?

Comment by T A A on February 1, 2011 at 5:15am
Oh how I miss my 80s OMNI subscription! so much fun :)
Comment by Jaume on January 31, 2011 at 10:39pm

Crapping or not crapping is not a moral issue.

I'm not so sure we don't subconsciously attach moral 'values' to the byproducts of our physiology. Read this short story, and then try to figure out, say, Kirk and Spock's reaction to their discovery of a new sentient species made out of fecal matter.

"They're made out of shit..."

 

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