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Comment by Brad Snowder on January 27, 2012 at 1:33pm

Hi all, I just joined. I have a bloggish thingy going, bible satire: http://skywiseunlimited.com

Comment by Wayne Mowery on January 9, 2012 at 1:57pm

I read the Bible and Koran regularly. The more that I read either of them, the more of an atheist I become. The truth is that you have to be taught how to read a religious text and trained on which traditions to accept and reject. If people read either of these books without understanding the "culture" of the religion - they would all be atheists. Which is why neither of these books is a source of morality. The real source of "morality" comes from the religious traditions that are created, maintained, and updated by people. Which is why religious morality is not moral to begin with - just another point of view. 

Comment by percy on January 6, 2012 at 2:54pm

i used to be one of jehovah's witnesses. i have read the new testament and a part of the old but never read it in it's entirety.  it always amazed me how the society would change their "thinking" on issues at a regular basis when they had been proved wrong about something.  quite an experience lol :D

Comment by Dylan Alexander Fick on June 28, 2011 at 9:26pm

I read the King James version of the Bible three times from age 11 to 16 as a defense mechanism against the psycho fundamentalist Southern Baptists in Tennessee where I had the misfortune of living. 

Some of them back off when you know more about their religion than they do.

Comment by Andrew Irvine on June 21, 2011 at 3:35pm

I lost my faith when I was 10 years old. My mother, at my grand-fathers request, sent my brother and I to an old lady for bible study. It was the first proper exposure we'd had to the nonsense contained within and it didn't take me long to figure out it was rubbish.  I've read it a lot since, along with other holy books, as it helps when explaining to people why I disagree with it. 

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on June 16, 2011 at 7:54pm

@Katerin - I was heavily indoctrinated as well, but into two religions because my grandmothers had different flavours of Jesus.  That actually helped me see the contradictions more clearly.  I couldn't just move to the new testament because if the covenants between Yahweh & Abraham/Moses/Israel weren't valid then the life of Jesus meant nothing.  In the end I lost all my family over it (amongst other things) though, so I know what you mean about faith leaving a hole in your life.  There are many on this site going through this - which makes me wonder if there is a support group.  Perhaps we should ask around.

Comment by Katrin Schwarz on June 16, 2011 at 7:37pm

Hi Heather, I envy you - While I was a christian, I once read the book of Mormon and my immediate reaction was that it was a 'load of made up rubbish' but if I had been brainwashed to believe it from a young age my perception would probably have been different.I was heavily indoctrinated/brainwashed into christianity since early childhood, and my perception of the old testament was that it is a collection of parables, history, prophecys (by men inspired by god and fallible), laws/rules for living that were appropriate (and some not) for their time in history. I had no problem with Genesis as I saw it as it in this light.  For example the story of Adam and Eve, I looked at as a parable and would not have even considered it to represent an actual event. I looked at the New Testament as the real 'word of god' and it was my studies of the New Testament that triggered my eventual rejection of christianity.As a teenager and young adult my spare time was wasted on the church. My social life revolved around the church and when I eventually left, I lost almost all of my friends and all of my social life. This left a hole that took years to recover from.

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on June 16, 2011 at 8:31am

Wow, Katerin, you sure made a much better study of it than did I.  For me it just started with the impossibility of Genesis.  Once I realized one of the books was a fairy tale, I began asking how I could know any of the other books were NOT fairy tales.

Comment by Katrin Schwarz on June 16, 2011 at 7:38am

Wanting to be a more knowledgeable christian caused me to delve deeply into the Bible.  Ironically it was my independent study of bible history and particularly studies of the interlinear Greek New Testament and the interlinear Hebrew Old Testament along with various language study aids that convinced me that there were many blatantly deceitful and warped the translations twisted to suit the agendas of the translators.  This was the trigger that started my long climb out of the pit of indoctrination that had been brainwashed into me from childhood.  With ongoing study of bible history and a growing openness to common sense I gradually became convinced that the bible was an old myth that had been deceitfully modified over the years to suit various political and personal agendas.  In all it took more than ten years for me to de-program myself enough to admit that christianity was phoney and that I had been brainwashed. 

I have not studied the bible for many years now because I regard it as just another myth and irrelevant in my life.  

Comment by Heather Spoonheim on February 6, 2011 at 10:25am

I'm glad to have found this group and I'll check on the discussions soon.  Personally I read the bible, cover to cover, at an early age because of a paradox of faith.  Ultimately that led to my atheism.  I read it again though, and when you aren't bogged down by a bunch of oral dogma and church ritual, it is easy to see that there are a lot of things in there that are very interesting.

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