It has long been politically correct to state that it's "not the size but the motion" that counts. Women have so long been under the thumb of religion and patriarchy and most women have learned that lying to "your man" is much more fruitful/profitable than denigrating him because of his lack of penis volume. And what good would bitching about penis size do anyway, it's not like a guy can change it. It is a done deal and it's simply not worth bitching about it once in a couple context.


However, that being said, that point of view in no way dictates that biologically speaking, the penis size is unimportant. The vagina is an elastic structure and responds differently to various shapes and volumes. In addition, most studies indicate that the the penis size to total body ratio is a fairly good indicator of female sexual selection in nature. And Homo sapiens males are very well endowed indeed in this regard, favoring a view that in Homo sapiens females do exercise choice (evolutionary speaking).


However, as in the another post on this forum regarding Homo sapiens brains getting smaller since agriculture, the fact that Homo sapiens have migrated to non tropical climes, began wearing clothes all the time and the advent of religion, female choice has been near totally emasculated. 20,000 years is long enough to create reproductive bias dimishing the value of a large penis. But this bias does not imply necessarily that the female vagina has had time to 'adapt' to lesser selection.


The following graph, in parallel with Adriana's comment on this board agrees that women's response to penis size is variable. It also demonstrates that "bigger" is not "better" in the absolute sense. But what it does support is that size is relevant. The important number to consider is that accross the board, beyond races and nationalities and age, the average male is between 5.5" and 6" in length erect. So when women are asked if they 'fake orgasm' and stats reveal that a whopping 50% of females have faked it and when we look at where that 'average' size fits on this graph, we can guess at the 'faking it' motivations. Our size range is simply incompatible. As for girth, I think we can simply say that if your fingers touch when holding the penis in your hand, it is on the narrow side. A mere little can of Redbull is 7" in circumference, and a regular soda can is close to 8".


In the end, all things said, a larger than average penis - whether oogled or touched - is a major aphrodisiac as it speaks of nearly garanteed satisfaction, with the added benefit of less energy expended.

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Sexual selection via dancing? This has got to be the best species ever!

Male dance moves that catch a woman's eye


Tho my own personal experience, which is vaster than this single study, hints that dancing ability among caucasians is not a reliable indicator of great sex, this could be an artefact from our society discouraging men from dancing for pleasure. Dancing in the Caribbean takes on a whole new meaning. Dancing ability can also be correlated to fitness... Erections are highly dependant on circulatory health (recent studies of ED). In this regard, general fitness can be a reasonable indicator of erectile function.

The Kama Sutra recognizes three categories for men and women:  Men; hare, bull, and horse.  Women; deer, mare, and elephant.  It recommends hare-deer, bull-mare, and horse-elephant combinations as the best, and hare-elephant, and horse-deer as the least favorable.

Does it offer a way of determining which ones you or your partner are?


Just kick them in the groin area and listen. Neigh? Horse. Trumpet? Elephant. Etc.

Haha, sales of "Hey Babe, I'm small (please don't kick)" T-shirts go up.
One would think for males, at least, the criteria would be obvious.  As for females, one size fits all, but some are more accommodating, you just have to try it on.  Remember, dudes, this is a religious text written thousands of years ago.

The penis size thing is one more piece of mental ammunition that women use to belittle men (no pun intended). Women have been self conscious about their own bodies for years - breasts too small, hips and thighs too big, etc. etc. And they know that men are very visual and assess them right away, without even getting to know them.

In my experience, i've encountered women who are a lot looser vaginally than others. But do men go so far as to make charts and over-analyze women with huge stretched-out vaginas vs. nice small tight ones? Hardly.

Now odor and taste...whole other story.

Apparently the stretched out vaginas aren't preventing men from cuming... whereas only 30% of females experience vaginal orgasms... Yes there might be additional reasons why vaginal orgasms are so uncommon, but penis size is a relevant factor.
Wow, I'm surprised at such a large size preference for anal sex. Forgive my ignorance here... but what percentage of men cum from receiving anal sex? I ask because the study would be more interesting if the results came from actual orgasm data instead of memory/perception of satisfaction during a future conversation/questionnaire. From Googling it, I reckon the percentage is pretty low?

Good pun :)

This has really piqued my curiosity. Prostate stimulation is a very quick/efficient way of collecting sperm, so I am a little surprised that anal sex does not provide more satisfaction...?


"nearly garanteed satisfaction"

Don't I wish. 

According to the measurements I took in my youth, I fall into the "A" category, but my sex life has been less than spectacular. I've had a habit of keeping on very good terms with all my sex partners. We're all good friends. So I have it on good authority that my size was ideal, my prowess - not so much.

If I can tie this to the thread about male sex drive, this might provide a clue. According to the total of ten minutes I've spent reading women's porn (trashy romance novels), women want a man whose need for her is so overwhelming he's unable to restrain himself. That's just not me. 

So there's my contribution to both threads: A) a man's size does NOT matter as much as his desire; B) I personally believe woman's sex drive is higher. Far more of an average woman's time is spent on their relationships.


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