You never had a personal relationship with jesus!
Righteous Dude:Jesus loves you, when you say that you use to believe in Jesus, you were probably just going thru the motions, did you have a personal relationship with jesus?
Me your humble athiest:Yes, but I came to realize that my relationship was imaginary.
Righteous Dude: If you had a real personal relationship yada yada yada
Me your humble athiest:Told him my life story....reasons why I believed...how I came to realize that fear makes us create a lot of imaginary gods and monsters, and that the only real monsters are you and I, and that an imaginary god isn't going to do anything about that...etc.
Righteous Dude:I dont think you had a personal...........yada yada yada
Any good responses?
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Permalink Reply by Mario Rodgers on -
How do you have a personal relationship with something whose voice sounds like dead silence?
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Permalink Reply by Rodrica Davis on -
If all the Christians who have called other Christians “not really a Christian” were to vanish, there would be no Christians left.-Anonymous
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Permalink Reply by Rodrica Davis on
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Probably. I know protestants tend to not think Catholics are true christians.
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Permalink Reply by Bill on -
The personal relationship you had with Jesus is just like the personal relationship you had with Angelina Jolie last night, it was all in your head.
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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on -
Well it's HIS fault I never had a personal relationship with him.
I mean, there are so many deities and demigods out there...and I'm only one human.
My time to invite all these folks into my heart for guidance (and then wait the necessary time alloted to see if they answer) is limited by my lifespan and other natural requirements that HE created me with.
That sorta puts the ball in his court, doesn't it?
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Permalink Reply by Marshall on -
The religious dude's assertions are completely unfalsifiable and should as a result be dismissed off hand IMHO. Are we supposed to believe in god simply because a christian can claim that he has a personal relationship with it? Would you accept such logic to convince you of any other major claim that requires a not only a huge investment of your time but also a significant percentage of you future income? Would you believe in Xenu if I told you I had tasted his presence? Of course not, even if you were convinced that I honestly believed the claim.
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Permalink Reply by Brian Stewart on -
Me: "What does a "personal relationship" mean?"
Righteous Dude: "Knowing each other..."
Me: " 'knowing' as in the Bible?"
Dude: "yes...hey wait now"
Me: "heheh"
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Permalink Reply by Rodrica Davis on
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lol
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Permalink Reply by Atheist Exile on -
Hey SomewhereinND,
When it comes to religious folks, I don't care if they're faithful believers as long as they're honest about it. If they claim faith because they want or need God, then I say "Amen". If they claim faith because they know which God is the real one and they know what he likes and dislikes, then I say get the hell away from me! Don't come to me, uninvited, pretending to know what you can't possibly know.
Those who profess their faith honestly admit it is a subjective, personal, choice and without basis in logic or evidence. They don't claim a rational explanation for supernatural claims and they don't presume to claim knowledge of God's mind. Where their motives are concerned, they're not in denial. It's the ones who do make such claims who are being dishonest. They are in denial. Their rationalizations are a house of cards.
Therein lies the crux of the problem. Denial leads to belief systems built upon dishonesty. Certainty is a facade masking a web of delusions -- claims of knowledge nobody can possibly possess. Whereas "honest" believers recognize the subjective, personal nature of their faith, "dishonest" believers do not. They are threatened by disbelief and respond angrily when their faith is challenged. If only all believers could admit that they believe for subjective, personal, reasons -- and not objective, rational, reasons -- then religion would finally become the personal preference that it really is. Fundamentalism would evaporate and zealotry would fade away. There would be nothing (religious) to fight about any more.
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Permalink Reply by Courtney on -
I try my best not to respond to these people.
I doubt I'll change their line of thinking and they SURELY won't change mine.I had a girl that would constantly say, "It's such a shame you didn't have the experiences I had with god. It's such a shame he didn't come into your life."
I'd just say nothing.
::shoulder shrug::
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