Me your humble athiest:I am an athiest, I use to believe in Jesus, but that is silly because, imaginary gods aren't real.
Righteous Dude:Jesus loves you, when you say that you use to believe in Jesus, you were probably just going thru the motions, did you have a personal relationship with jesus?
Me your humble athiest:Yes, but I came to realize that my relationship was imaginary.
Righteous Dude: If you had a real personal relationship yada yada yada
Me your humble athiest:Told him my life story....reasons why I believed...how I came to realize that fear makes us create a lot of imaginary gods and monsters, and that the only real monsters are you and I, and that an imaginary god isn't going to do anything about that...etc.
Righteous Dude:I dont think you had a personal...........yada yada yada
I come up against this one all the time from my Mum - not about Jesus but about feeling 'energy' - a magical indefinable thing floating around in the sky *groan*
When I tell her I used to feel it too & it's really just imaginary she'll tell me I probably never actually 'connected' with it. I tried to prove it by showing her I can still make a pendulum move & she said 'you're just moving your hand'... YOU'RE just moving your hand Mum! That's how it fucking WORKS!!! ARGH!!!
Well it's HIS fault I never had a personal relationship with him.
I mean, there are so many deities and demigods out there...and I'm only one human.
My time to invite all these folks into my heart for guidance (and then wait the necessary time alloted to see if they answer) is limited by my lifespan and other natural requirements that HE created me with.
That sorta puts the ball in his court, doesn't it?
The religious dude's assertions are completely unfalsifiable and should as a result be dismissed off hand IMHO. Are we supposed to believe in god simply because a christian can claim that he has a personal relationship with it? Would you accept such logic to convince you of any other major claim that requires a not only a huge investment of your time but also a significant percentage of you future income? Would you believe in Xenu if I told you I had tasted his presence? Of course not, even if you were convinced that I honestly believed the claim.