Yahweh versus Beezlebub
My mother always told me that doubt in the word of Christ was really Satan speaking to me. He was a clever bloke who was trying to subvert my faith in Jesus and God. I never thought he was quite that clever as described by my mother. After all, the Christians were on to this ruse if it was indeed true. I imagined that a truly clever trick was for Satan to pretend to be God and brain wash his followers into refusing to listen to any evidence or reason that he was not a loving, one true God. I tried to present this hypothesis to my mother who would hear none of it. She would not even let me finish explaining, which in my young mind, strengthened my belief that maybe I had it right after all. That clever devil!
With these memories in mind, I thought of a question that I would certainly like to have answered. I know many here have decent to excellent knowledge of the Bible and I was inspired by a chart showing statistics on killing and body counts for the Rambo film franchise. Here is my query to you all.
Who killed more people in the Bible? Yahweh or Satan?
I don't remember ever hearing of Satan killing anyone. His stories were always of temptation. He was trying to persuade humans to come to his side by their own volition. God murdered left and right and demanded love and obedience. It certainly seems to me now that Satan really was a benevolent deity and Yahweh was a malevolent bully.
So, are there any instances in the bible where Lucifer actually killed anyone? Like directly? No "God killed them because Satan tempted them so Satan is to blame" crap. I mean directly responsible.
I look forward to your replies.
With these memories in mind, I thought of a question that I would certainly like to have answered. I know many here have decent to excellent knowledge of the Bible and I was inspired by a chart showing statistics on killing and body counts for the Rambo film franchise. Here is my query to you all.
Who killed more people in the Bible? Yahweh or Satan?
I don't remember ever hearing of Satan killing anyone. His stories were always of temptation. He was trying to persuade humans to come to his side by their own volition. God murdered left and right and demanded love and obedience. It certainly seems to me now that Satan really was a benevolent deity and Yahweh was a malevolent bully.
So, are there any instances in the bible where Lucifer actually killed anyone? Like directly? No "God killed them because Satan tempted them so Satan is to blame" crap. I mean directly responsible.
I look forward to your replies.
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Permalink Reply by Nelson on -
check it out: how many did god kill verses satan?
basically, the bible has god either instructing his followers to kill, or killing himself, millions of people while Satan kills only 10, and even those 10 are with god complicit in the context of a wager.
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Permalink Reply by Reggie on -
Is it wrong if I'd rather enjoy watch some hapless soul battle you and your wealth of sources in verbal battle?
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Permalink Reply by Nelson on
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not at all! who doesn't like watching someone pour salt on a slug just to watch it squirm?! :D
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Permalink Reply by Aric on -
Yeah, now that I think about it if what the bible says is true, which it isn't, then god is a total dick.
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Permalink Reply by Misty: Baytheist Living! on -
Actually.. I don't think it was 'the devil' that killed Job's family. That was all god.
Secondly the names Lucifer, Satan and Beelzebub aren't interchangeable. These are different entities with the exception of Lucifer possibly taking on the name Satan after the rebellion. Lucifer means light-bringer, Satan means adversary. The only link in the Bible is a single passage that states that Lucifer fell to earth in a flash of lightning, indicating that he might have been one of the third that was cast out. Beelzebub is actually a general of hell and stood beside Satan, so clearly wasn't him....
By the way.. how come Satan can whisper in your ear and plant doubt so clearly when god can't whisper back and clear it up? And if he can, why doesn't he?
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Permalink Reply by Reggie on
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Perhaps we should bring God up on charges for international war crimes?
Didn't some guy try to sue God in such a manner and it was dismissed because the courts had no way to bring the defendant in to stand trial? I'd want to sue him at least for all the "acts" attributed to him that cost me my insurance deductible. Throw hail at my car, will ya!
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Permalink Reply by Dave G on -
Yep. A Nebraska State Senator sued God over natural disasters. 'He said the Almighty has made terroristic threats against the senator and his constituents in Omaha, inspired fear and caused "widespread death, destruction and terrorization of millions upon millions of the Earth's inhabitants."'
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