Would the Connecticut elementary school toll have been smaller if...

...a couple staffers had been armed?

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Permalink Reply by Strega on December 14, 2012 at 10:43pm

Seriously?

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 14, 2012 at 10:50pm

Absolutely. How could, for example, having an armed security guard or two not have cut down the death toll among the children (which is now 22, with 2 having died in the hospital)? Are you saying that saving a few of those children would not have been worthwhile?

Explain, please!

Permalink Reply by Strega on December 14, 2012 at 10:53pm

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 15, 2012 at 12:18am

I asked you a question. You replied with a bumper sticker.

Permalink Reply by Barry Adamson on February 25, 2013 at 1:44pm

A legitimate response, considering such a bumper sticker, implies that absurdity Strega finds in your post.

What one finds reasonable, another might find absurd.

Permalink Reply by James Cox on December 15, 2012 at 3:10am

I expect that having an armory in the school principle's office, would only create other problems.

Even lockouts on all school doors during the school day would not so much save the kids against a low probability event, but would create the impression that the 'reality' around the kids is a fearful place, full of monsters, and demons, giving religious evangelists a new population for their fear mongering.

Promoting security folks at schools would increase the costs of operation, while offering little protection due to their inexperience and possible grand standing. Building a mystic around people who carry guns, and the power that they feel with a weapon, only increases the level of fantasy and modeling kids can indudge in. If a quiet security detail could be created, that is non-intrusive and covert, might offer a force to suppress a possible shooter, but again schools are not yet structured for an 'OK Corral' like event.

I would like to see a more overt attempt at intervention, sadly I am doubtful that the psycological establishment is fully up to the task of intervention.

Anyone have suggestions?

Permalink Reply by Yahweh on December 15, 2012 at 10:17am

Also having an armory will entice kids to steal weapons and play around with it, which will cause accidents.

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 15, 2012 at 11:05am

I'm sure a safe with a combination lock or random character passcode would keep even high school students out 99.999% of the time. I think the benefit would outweigh the risk.

Permalink Reply by Yahweh on December 15, 2012 at 10:44pm

You'd be surprised how creative kids are when there is a lock on it. I was already learning how to break passcodes on computers when I was a kid, and that was before internet was so widespread. Imagine now how easy it would be today with the information on the net..

Permalink Reply by Unseen on December 15, 2012 at 11:00pm

I'm sure a lot of things would surprise me, but we can't reject a good idea because it grows awry a very very very small percentage of the time.

A box with a built-in lock on it with six 10-digit dials would have no electronic way of beaking it. Of course, the kids might have an oxygen/acetylene cutting torch, right?

Permalink Reply by Doc Feral on February 25, 2013 at 2:26am