...a couple staffers had been armed?

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Egged on, by the competition?

Ewww... That's corny!

It rolls in a wobbly way.

You got a point there Dino, this conversation should be about;

'How do we solve our mental illness problem?'

Instead it's about ways to violate the 2nd Amendment yet again.

@Kris Feenstra

What exactly happens in Canada if I confront an intruder while I'm holding a gun and he produces a very nasty knife or Taserl and proceeds to use it? Do I need to drop my gun and kick him in the nuts?

You do not need to drop your gun. You merely need to accept the consequences of your actions which may or may not be a criminal charge (even if you killed the intruder) depending on whether you only took the steps necessary to defend yourself (not your property), or if you went beyond that and applied unreasonable force or acted as executioner.

Unfortunately, one can shoot someone and not know if one is killing him. One may even hope one is not killing him and yet it might turn out that way. For example, a well-intended shot to the leg that ruptures the femoral artery can kill someone in less than a minute.

So, I guess the best thing to do might be to close your eyes and hope you don't get killed. 


No wonder Canada calls their money "Loonie".


We have rules for gunfights too:

Rule number 1:

There are no rules in a gunfight.

Oh wait, there is one rule...Survive.

@ Kris have you always lived in a sheltered safe violence-free environment?

Kris you have obviously never been in a fight where someone else is trying to fuck you up, otherwise you would realize how ridiculous those rules are.

Twice as many people as a percentage of population assaulted in Canada as America, I now know why.

(I)n 2003, the violent crime rate in the United States was 475 per 100,000 people; while up north, there were 963 violent crimes per 100,000 people. The figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 people was more than double that of the United States: 74 as opposed to 32.1; and the assault rate in Canada was also more than twice that of the states: 746 to America's 295 for the people. (source)

I found this and a couple other articles seeming to show that while the homicide rate is much lower in Canada, the assault rate and rate of rapes was considerably higher in "peaceful" Canada.

Well, when you have an inclusive definition of assault, that is what a Canadian considers assault, and one has to live with the statistics. Equally loose on rape stats in Canada? Does trying to grab a goodnight kiss without asking permission first constitute rape up there?


Comparing Canadian reported violent crimes with US reported violent crimes is an interesting exercise, but there are two considerations that would potentially skew the resulting comparison.

One is that the people in the USA who shot someone (gun crime) are still a criminal element.  There is a real possibility that without access to guns they may have carried out other violent crimes and thus appeared in the US statistic for those.

The other is that the figures for sexual assault or domestic assault are those reported; the culture surrounding, or mechanism for reporting may be completely different.  We know that many of these assaults are not reported (I could probably wiki some data if it were necessary) but we don't know how many.

I'm not refuting the result of that article, I'm just pointing out the potentially statistic-affecting other differences which we would need to make some attempt at factoring in, in order to get a more realistic view. 

So, do Canadians tend to report events as rape that would just constitute being a little forward in the U.S.?

You have a law against anal intercourse?


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