...a couple staffers had been armed?

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The fact that we've had mass shootings in the news quite a bit this year might lead us to forget that, in this country of about 315 million, a few dozen deaths is really nothing. In fact, 10 times that amount wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket. We actually have bigger problems to deal with.

Preventable deaths should never be dismissed so lightly.

1% of the 30,000 US gun deaths per year are justifiable, including police action.

So, yeah, NO...

You're saying that if a couple people (security officers, teachers or administrators) had been armed it would not have reduced the death count. 

Explain, please.

Nope, not at all. By the numbers, facts are facts, It just doesn't pan out. Even armed security guards are easy marks. It takes about 2 minutes to kill a classroom full of kids.

To be at the ready, every teacher would have to  essentially be "a soldier", armed and ready, crouching behind cover all day.The killer has been planning this out. Do you really want everyone living under the gun? I would like to think Americans can own guns. I guess that is asking too much.

That sounds like a statistic, but it's an opinion ("justified"? by whose standards). So where did you get that "statistic"?

Justifiable, meaning  that the shooter was not charged with a crime. Of course most gun deaths are ruled suicides..but that's a another issue.

I there are the ever popular "I was cleaning my gun and it went off, killing my wife" excuse. I don't think "justifiable" includes suicides or accidents. Not in any ordinary sense of the word.

If I were on that guy's jury I'd laugh him into a conviction (absent some really unforeseeable circumstance I can't imagine here and now).

A gun cannot "go off" while disassembled for cleaning (you might even say it's irreducibly complex!), and must be unchambered if you have any intention of cleaning the bore (which is the most important part of the cleaning).  So basically he would have to be in the process of unloading or loading the gun prior to or after the cleaning for it to be capable of going off.  So then the question is what the blazing fucque is he doing pointing it at his wife while doing so, AND having his finger on the trigger?  Multiple violations of the four basic rules of safety going on there.  He's either so stupid he's a hazard to bystandanders, or he really wanted his wife dead.

Yeah, but we in the U.S. have a right to bear arms that's in our Constitution, and changing that is about as close to impossible as making pi an integer.

Don't be hatein'!

America has a problem, for sure. But gun control won't fix it.

Even things which obviously will never happen (Amerca getting tight gun control, for example) are still possible in a theoretical way. 


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